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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by delber View Post
    because the GMO stuff isn't good for you.
    thats a bunch of garbage,
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    thats a bunch of garbage,
    Or maybe compost?
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    thats a bunch of garbage,
    He read it on the "Internet"..... gotta be true.
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Are you saying that GMO produce is exactly the same as organic produce?

    I wouldn't.

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    Are you saying that GMO produce is exactly the same as organic produce?

    I wouldn't.
    Are you 'exactly the same as" me? Are GMOs harmful?
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    The union of concerned scientists seem to think that it's '...Amoral and Unsustainable...'.

    The EU has stopped new GMO approvals, and there is an effective ban on major GMO products.

    My question would be, "Is GMO technology good for both native and managed pollinators?"

    I don't have any problems consuming it; but I don't want to end up living underground, with a shaved head, wearing a white jumpsuit, with a barcode 'tat' on my neck either.

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    I guess tests will have to be run.
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    Are you saying that GMO produce is exactly the same as organic produce?

    I wouldn't.
    soo, your comparing a GMO crop grown conventionally to an organically produced crop, and asking whether they are the same? GMO has nothing to do with it,
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    GMO crops sell for less than they cost to produce. They have a greater environmental impact, and they have some very, very serious social justice issues attached to them.

    So, while organic produce currently costs more than GM produce, that's because GM crops are heavily subsidized.

    We already know about the impact of pesticides on the environment. So, that's a moot point.

    I am aware of many inidigenous people who have been displaced into city slums by the 'Soyeros' of South America. I won't mentioned the countless Indian farmers who have committed suicide by drinking pesticide because of 'false' GM promises.

    All technologies have a benefit and a burden. GMOs are no different.

    It's bad for someone's well being at the very least.

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    you obviously dont grow GM crops, otherwise youd realize that entire statement to be a bunch of , ... compost
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    That's not an argument Ian.

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    argue against a bunch of made up stuff?
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    I wish that it wasn't true.

    An entire continent recently banned a wide range of neonic coated seed products to 'Save the Bees'.

    Did they make that up too?

    There's also a growing movement among beekeepers to get off of the 'Treatment Treadmill' in a move towards IPM/Organic beekeeping.

    Stop defending a technology that's has alot of serious issues.

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Originally Posted by delber
    because the GMO stuff isn't good for you.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    thats a bunch of garbage,
    Yes, that's exactly what he said, it not good for you. It's garbage.
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    I wish that it wasn't true.

    An entire continent recently banned a wide range of neonic coated seed products to 'Save the Bees'.

    Did they make that up too?

    There's also a growing movement among beekeepers to get off of the 'Treatment Treadmill' in a move towards IPM/Organic beekeeping.

    Stop defending a technology that's has alot of serious issues.
    Well V. . . . WLC, I like this! When we stay away from the extremes, there is a lot we all have in common. Well said.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Its not nice to fool with Mother Nature! Monsanto has pretty much merged with USDA. We are stuck with it.

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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Yes, that's exactly what he said, it not good for you. It's garbage.
    has nothing to do with the GM tech ,
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    Stop defending a technology that's has alot of serious issues.
    Its tech that has brought huge advantages to agriculture
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post

    An entire continent recently banned a wide range of neonic coated seed products to 'Save the Bees'.

    Did they make that up too?
    what does any of that have to do with GM crops?
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    Default Re: Monsanto GMO products contribute to ccd

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    GMO crops sell for less than they cost to produce. They have a greater environmental impact, and they have some very, very serious social justice issues attached to them.
    it sells on the stock exchange, has nothing to do with cost of production,
    it has provided huge advantages to soil health and sustainability, less cultivation, less pesticides, healthier soils
    the social issues are a matter of opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    So, while organic produce currently costs more than GM produce, that's because GM crops are heavily subsidized.
    I dont know how GM crops are subsidized, are you referring to government programs in relation to ALL of agricultural produciton?

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    We already know about the impact of pesticides on the environment. So, that's a moot point.
    GM crops use less pesticide, thats a fact,

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    I am aware of many inidigenous people who have been displaced into city slums by the 'Soyeros' of South America. I won't mentioned the countless Indian farmers who have committed suicide by drinking pesticide because of 'false' GM promises.
    And what does GM crops have to do with any of that?
    Last edited by Ian; 06-13-2013 at 04:11 PM.
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