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  1. #1
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    Default introducing new queen

    I have a nuc that I started in April and I have had terrible luck with. The queen that came with the package died before being released from the cage, I bought a second queen, and she is a drone laying queen. So I decided to get a third queen from a different suplier. When I went to place the new queen I could not find the old one at all, and she is marked, and there isn't taht many bees... so i decided to put the cage in anyways, and I gave them a frame of brood. I left the corck over the sugar plug, I will look again tomorrow, and if i can't find the old queen i will take the corck off and see what happens...What do you think?

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    Default Re: introducing new queen

    Is the drone laying queen marked? A drone laying queen is still a laying queen.
    The worker bees still treat her as a queen even if you have one frame of bees in
    the hive. They will not take a new queen that easily thinking she is an intruder.
    The worse situation is they will kill her if you take the cork off too early to release her
    into the hive. They needed time to get used to the new queen first. If there is still
    an old queen in there they might not be that acceptable of the new queen. Give them
    more time to adjust to the smell of the new queen to do it properly. I had bees that
    will feed 2 virgin queens but not the laying new queen all put in individual mini plastic cages in
    the same hive.

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    Default Re: introducing new queen

    Yes, the old queen is marked, But I couldnt find her...I will try again tomorrow. I also wanted to know if I should take the drone comb frame out or leave it in the hive?

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    Default Re: introducing new queen

    If the queen is marked then you should be able to find her.
    Some beekeepers use a queen excluder and shake all the
    bees off the frame. This way it is much easier to spot the
    queen if she's there. It is easier to do when there isn't that
    many bees now. Then you can give them another frame of
    broods if you have any. And put the new queen in at the same
    time. Wait 3 days to see if they already release her from the cage.
    Hopefully she will be a good laying queen. If the population is
    really low now then remove the drone frame to put it in another
    stronger hive. A strong hive can take more drones than the
    weaker hive. At one time one of my hives have many drones
    that hatched. Now they are back to normal level because these drones
    will fly out to mate with other queen bees. After that they will
    die too. No need to concern much about them.

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