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  1. #1
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    Default New Top Entrance Question

    Hello, all

    I just my new package 4.9mm bees in today from Wolf Creek apairies.

    This is my 2 or 3rd year at beekeeping, and i thought about trying a top entrance i've made (images attached).
    It's seems like a good idea to have a top entrance to reduce brood congestion during honey flow and to keep it cooler in summer since heat rises.

    Can any experts see any potential problems with this design?

    This is 3/8''s think and the plan is to have this on top of the brood chambers, and the supers will be on top of this, so it's kind of a top/middle entrance depends on if supers are on.

    If I decide to use a queen excluder this would be on top, so it would not allow the queen through, but since the entrance would be on top to the excluder the bees wouldn't have to go through the excluder to the honey supers.
    But after thinking about it I would still need to let the drones in and out of the brood some way.

    Thanks in advance.

    side view.jpgtop entrance on brood.jpgTop-side.jpg

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    Default Re: New Top Entrance Question

    First off, let me commend you for taking the initiative.

    1. You will have problems with burr comb, no doubt.
    2. Bee space will be rather large between supers, may give the bees a hard time moving up and down.
    3. I am NO expert by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Default Re: New Top Entrance Question

    The trouble is a bee will use what ever entrance it used the first time unless you eliminate that option. So if you add another entrance no bee will use it until you prevent them from using the entrance they were using.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: New Top Entrance Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Beeman View Post
    First off, let me commend you for taking the initiative.

    1. You will have problems with burr comb, no doubt.
    2. Bee space will be rather large between supers, may give the bees a hard time moving up and down.
    3. I am NO expert by any stretch of the imagination.


    Actually 1 and 2 are a little off, they won't burr comb the additional space, and bees move fine, but with the perk that teh queen will very seldom cross the gap.... I have been doing this for about 5 years and wouldn't do anything else.. but as mentioned you will need to close the bottom up, or they won't switch

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    Default Re: New Top Entrance Question

    I say let the bees decide. Nearly all my hives have both a top and bottom entrance and they do just fine. I like your design. I'd only worry about robbing. When that happens you'll need to be prepared to close them both up to just a very small entrance.
    "My wife always wanted girls. Just not thousands and thousands of them......"

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    Default Re: New Top Entrance Question

    More work than is necessary. All you need is a twig or a shim under one corner of the existing top.

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    Default Re: New Top Entrance Question

    That is really a mid entrance... a flat cover with shims is much simpler. Bees have no need for the ramp...

    http://bushfarms.com/beestopentrance.htm
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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