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  1. #1
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    Default Producing a small number of queens in a queenright colony?

    Hello,

    I had originally planned on using a swarm box starter queenright finisher for raising some queens for myself this year but that was assuming I would have seven big hives to work with--however things as they are I have 3 good hives, one a queenless mess and thats it.

    So I would like to make some queens and since I only have 3 good hives I do not want to screw around to much with them and lose all of my honey production (where I am the flow is just getting moving now)

    I was thinking instead as some have proposed to take one of my good hives put a queen excluder between them and then put all the capped brood w queen in bottom box and young larvae/grafts on top and put supers on top of that as spelled out on Dave cushmans site: http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/benhardenmethod.html

    Anyone try something like this--I am looking to raise about 10-15 queen cells so that If I get 7 good mated queens I would be happy
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    Default Re: Producing a small number of queens in a queenright colony?

    I have not try Dave's method. I only tried the OTS notching and now the grafting method.
    The OTS only created 4 big queens for me. The second time I did this was on a weaker hive
    that gave tiny useless queens. Because they made too many almost 14 qcs. Then I tried the grafting method.
    So far so good. If you are concern about honey production then after one month you can do a newspaper combine.
    Don't know how long your flow is. You might sacrifice some honey production for some good hives for next year's harvest.
    After the flow it is hard to make good big queens. These are my experiences with queen rearing so far this year.

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    Default Re: Producing a small number of queens in a queenright colony?

    The queenright queen rearing system works very well.
    You can introduce grafts into the top box or if you don't want to graft they will make their own cells.
    Grafting allows more control and you have cells which are all in one place which are easily removed and distributed.
    The key thing is density of bees and nutrition.
    You will need to feed a little syrup until all the cells are capped and you will need a couple of frames of pollen in the top box.
    If you are introducing a frame of grafts put a frame of open larvae either side of it and then a frame of pollen on the other side of each frame of larvae.
    This guarantees a concentration of nurse bees and a source of protein right beside the larvae which need to be turned into queens.
    If you graft a 12 hour larva you have just over 4 days to get as much Royal jelly into the cell as possible before it gets sealed. Poor nutrition = small queens.

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    Default Re: Producing a small number of queens in a queenright colony?

    Here is a queen rearing calendar that may be helpful when using the cloake board method.
    http://www.thebeeyard.org/queen-rearing-calendar

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