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    Default favorite queen for grafting so far

    Not just because she is a creature. One of my best hives out of 60 overwintered here in Washington State.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VW_PMRHCs

    I'm doing some grafting, but the hives are still slow to build for splitting into the mating nucs. Just enough of a flow they are not interested in syrup, but not enough for them to put on a lot of growth. Problem is, I want to break up my weaker or slower hives for the nucs and leave my booming hives alone.
    Until they start backfilling that is, then momma gets a new spot to live

    I didn't graft last year until May 19-so I am still early. I have some virgins in mating nucs already though, just not many. I am ready for the season to really get going!

    Here is my new mating nuc design for 2013. These standard nucs are divided to hold five half sized deep frames on each side. Each side has it's own inner cover so you can get into just one side easily. No bending! No ants or pests.



    Green duct tape has notes about each virgin installed:


    Red tape means queenless-no nuc is ever overlooked:


    Finisher hive with started cells..also green tape with notes..so I can tell at a glance and don't forget. Some of the hives still have their rachett strap on. This time of year they work great for making sure you have a positive closure on your hive top feeder to avoid a crack where they can get in and drown.



    New incubator is working great.


    Roller cages on their side have newly hatched and marked queens:


    Heres a pic of that queen in the video. Interesting color.


    And below is a sister to the queen above..out of the same original swarm queen.


    I have no problem with marking my virgins before mating flights-have a great return %.

    I did mark two newly hatched virgins with disks..just to see it affects return. If they come back OK, I'll try a few more and let you know.

    I hope everyone is having success this spring! Tell us how you are doing.
    Last edited by Lauri; 05-08-2013 at 08:38 PM.

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Hey Lauri,

    Looking good. I'm with you on wanting things to really get going. We're still a bit chilly here.

    Sent you a PM on another issue...

    Adam

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    I didn't get your PM Adam.

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Nice looking queen. What kind is it?
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Nice looking queen. What kind is it?
    Daughter from a swarm queen I collected in 2011 near Mt Rainier.

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Nice. I'm going to graft from a collected swarm queen myself. It's booming after a hard winter.

    Sent another PM.

    Adam

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauri View Post
    Daughter from a swarm queen I collected in 2011 near Mt Rainier.
    She does look Rainer Beer Brown, no? I just got my eyes on the daughter of my swarm queen from last year which just emerged yesterday...GORGEOUS! I'll see how she does and see if I can manage a few more this season. I love looking at all of your hives...Beeautiful!

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    'She does look Rainer Beer Brown, no? '

    hee hee, that's good. I do need to name this line.. Something with Mt Rainier in it and to reflect the genetic diversity and vigor.
    What was the indian name for Mt. Rainier?

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauri View Post

    I did mark two newly hatched virgins with disks.
    What are you using for glue? My searching found that titebond II works well. Sounded strange, but well-known breeders are using it.
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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    I use tb-3 for marking my queens. The paint never fall off or faded.
    Lauri, how come the temp is set at 98? I thought the normal temp
    is 90 to 96 for a queen incubator. Does it matter with the 2 degree difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beepro View Post
    Lauri, how come the temp is set at 98?
    I think that reads 90, and with the door open its probably right.
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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Nice job Lauri. I just grafted our first batch yesterday. I like your mating nuc setup. Did you make your own frames for them?

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Thanks, Astrobee. It is 90.

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    I use a pressure sensitive AAE Maxbond super glue made for fetching arrows. I cut a toothpick in half. I use the sharp end of a toothpick to pick almost no glue-rub it on her thorax-then use the cut blunt edge of the toothpick, moisten it in my mouth and pick up the disk-place it straight because as soon as it touches, it is permanent.
    http://arizonaarchery.com/store/8-ma...-7-oz-20g.html
    I've used it for two years with excellent results. Queens have no reaction to it what so ever.

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    I thought that at first glance too but it is set to 90

    Quote Originally Posted by beepro View Post
    I use tb-3 for marking my queens. The paint never fall off or faded.
    Lauri, how come the temp is set at 98? I thought the normal temp
    is 90 to 96 for a queen incubator. Does it matter with the 2 degree difference?

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Honey View Post
    I thought that at first glance too but it is set to 90
    I had to go back, and look at the details in the pictures. Everything, even your hive stand to the gravel is perfect!

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Great vids Lauri. I am going to use screen top feeders like you have.

    Do you use them in your cell starters? Do you have a favorite recipe for your cell starters?
    Rmns 1:16/Prv.3:5,6/ Beegan BK May 09/ Zone 5b
    I have NOT failed. I have only found many many ways that do not work!

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Lauri,

    I have a swarm queen I picked up a month ago that is very dark like the queen you have in that picture and that swarm has almost two deeps drawn out. She is an absolute laying machine. Before the builders even had a 8" x 6" leaf drawn in the upper deep she had already laid in it and moved back down!! I am going to graft off her on my next round.

    I like your pictures!!
    Coyote Creek Bees

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Lauri, are your mating nucs on hanging brackets or do you attach the boxes directly to your fence board? Great idea!
    Anne

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    Default Re: favorite queen for grafting so far

    Lauri,

    I use the same incubator, well the reptipro 6000 which is the same thing in grey. It works really well for keeping a constant temp without hot spots. I like your cage setup, i wish i had seen that before i made a bunch of trays to hold cells that i had to figure out the hard way
    Allegany Mtn. Bee Farm
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