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  1. #1
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    Question Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    Does anyone have any actual experience with Russian/Italian crosses? I have heard that the F1 can be really hot. Did you find this to be true.
    I cannot breed my virgin Russian queens without getting a few Italian drones in the mix.
    It would be greatly appreciated if only the people that have actually crossed the two, and have real experience with them, reply.

    I searched Bee Source, but couldn't find a clear answer.

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    I have russian/ itailian crosses, and theyre mean little buggers sometimes

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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    I heard they turn into communists....

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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    haha, dont get a weed-eater near them

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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    How can you tell they are crossed without getting dna testing done? It is my understanding the queen flies sometimes miles out to a drone clouds, mates many, many times and so the genetics of her offspring can be and are many types of honey bee....

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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    I have both im assuming theve cross bred

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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    I was just telling somebody about this today. Twelve years ago, we grafted queens from a Russian queen (purchased from Taber's) and introduced those queens into our Italian mating yard. The F1 was wickedly super hot. I killed them all off and started over with straight Italians.

    JB

  8. #8
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    Default Re: Crossing Italian and Russian bees.

    These are you answers with so many of other experiences already.
    Because so many drones in an area you really do not know which
    drones got mated with your virgin queen. I would imagine many different
    genetics mixed in since your queen will have many different drones to mate with anyway.
    You can take a chance with this experiment to see how the queens will turn out. You can
    even go with the F2 generation to further evaluate if you can get by the first, F1.

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