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  1. #1
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    Dec 2010
    Edinburgh, UK

    Default New Science study links bee-killing neonics to mass death of waterlife

    If any of you are concerned about the disappearance of insects, birds, fish, dragonflies, damselflies etc from the countryside (along with mass bee deaths) - this article is extremely important. In Holland, where they use neonics intensively in the tulip-fields and in glass-house vegetable - the field water, water in ditches, ponds and streams is so toxic that it would make an effective insecticide. It's not just bees - it is poisoning the entire environment.
    Last edited by Barry; 05-13-2013 at 06:12 AM.

  2. #2
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    Nov 2009
    Belfast, Ireland

    Default Re: New Science study links bee-killing neonics to mass death of waterlife

    Borderbeeman is the chap who loves to invoke conspiracy, conflict of interest and wild talk about 'shills' on the Internet forums.

    I notice that Randy Oliver has just made some comment about this paper on another forum.

    Randy Oliver himself has often been accused of being a 'shill' because he does not blindly accept the mantra about neonics being the main problem bees have at the moment.

    That said, let us now look more closely at the study. First, look who it
    was funded by: the Triodos Foundation’s Support Fund for Independent
    Research on Bee Decline and Systemic Pesticides.

    This funding source suggests that the funders had an expectation of what
    they wanted the results to be, and also greatly limited the scope of the
    "research" (actually consisting solely of statistical analysis of existing
    data gathered by water monitoring entities).

    The authors were not out to determine the causes of species decline, but
    rather only looked to see whether imidacloprid appeared to have any
    statistical correlation. The authors make this clear. The point being
    that since imidacloprid is associated with bulb growing, one would expect
    to find higher concentrations of it in bulb-growing areas (the southwest of
    the Netherlands). However, in those same areas one would also expect to
    see high concentrations of some of the other up to 600 different compounds
    monitored, including insecticides, herbicides, surfactants, fertilizers,
    etc. The study did not address the contribution by any of these other

  3. #3
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    Jan 2003
    Suffolk, VA

    Default Re: New Science study links bee-killing neonics to mass death of waterlife

    From the "Australian Distraction" thread....
    Quote Originally Posted by borderbeeman View Post
    I wouild (sic) love to respond to your questions but the Moderator is not allowing me to post in real time or in real locations.
    Funny that the "moderator" won't let you respond to questions, but still allows your single-mind program to continue.

    Can we get a moderator to please respond to borderbeeman's claim in post #36 on this thread:
    Horseshoe Point Honey --

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 1999
    DuPage County, Illinois USA

    Default Re: New Science study links bee-killing neonics to mass death of waterlife

    No. If you have questions about a(the) moderator, send them a PM or email with your questions.
    Regards, Barry


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