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  1. #1
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    Default Queen Identification

    Dear Friends
    I am trying to identify a Buckfast Queen, could this possibly be her?
    this is the image URL, as I could not upload it. link

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Queen Identification

    Buckfasts are bred under fairly strict conditions by licensed breeders in the UK, Germany, and Canada. If you didn't order it from them, it's unlikely you have a pure one. You could have a queen with some or even a lot of their genetic lineage, though.

    I had an email with the contacts for the breeding grounds at Dartmoor, and several of the Canadian Buckfast breeders, but Microsoft saw fit to update my system for me and I lost all my old emails. You could try to Google search Buckfast breeders and get them to look at the photo. These folks will have the best call on your question. The "Buckfast" bees I've dealt with turned out to be open-mated from Buckfast stock years before, and displayed traits a bit closer to feral AMM. I'm getting to the point that I'd like to try some actual Buckfast stock from the breeders.

    I just googled Buckfast bees, and one of the breeders in Canada is Ferguson Apiaries, another here in the US is Weaver Apiaries.
    Last edited by kilocharlie; 05-02-2013 at 07:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Queen Identification

    You can use the "Insert Image" button on the message toolbar to display the JPG you provided a link to. The button is the 3rd from the right. Once you have clicked it, choose the tab called "from URL", paste the link to the JPG, and UN-click the checkbox. And the result is this:



    I can't help with the Buckfast issue.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  4. #4
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    Default Re: Queen Identification

    I am not even sure that it is a queen. I think it is just a different color worker. I sometimes see very dark workers mixed in my hives. Maybe "mutt" drones bred the original queen and she throws a dark worker now and then?

    Again, I am not even sure she is a queen...wish you had a different angle picture....several of the workers in the picture actually have a longer abdomen that she does.

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    Default Re: Queen Identification

    If you look at the black bee's thorax it is the same size as other worker bees next to
    her. The queen bee has bigger thorax and her abdomen is a lot longer extending pass
    both wings. I don't see the longer body but a lot shorter by the wings.
    Any queen bee will have workers surrounding her in an almost circle like where ever she
    goes. I have often see darker worker bees but she's not the queen. Queen has bigger
    and longer body.

    Here is a longer body with darker thorax queen:
    Attached Images Attached Images

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    Default Re: Queen Identification

    I am looking on a much larger, brighter screen today. I do not see any queens in the original picture on the link. If you saw her laying eggs, she is very likely an intergrade worker-queen, the result of an emergency effort, probably made from a larva that was too old - raised on "worker jelly" for a while before suddenly being switched back to royal jelly.

    Beepro - you need a macro lens to take photos that close, but the 3rd and 4th photos show a beautiful queen!

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