Re: Going Treatment Free - step 1
Ignoring the claims that are made, ie, world record honey production, etc, and just going by video evidence that I can see, I don't quite know what all the fuss is about.
I see a hive stacked up incredibly high with boxes that are virtually empty, and not many bees in them. The hives shown, have less bees than any of my production hives in season, just a massive heap of boxes. What's all the fuss?
Going by some videos I've seen posted here by some of the commercial beeks, his hives have less bees than the US commercial hives I have seen.
However, the way his hives are set up, if there was an incredibly strong flow, I'm pretty sure they could put away an impressive crop. I'd like to see the harvest video. Going by bee numbers in the hives, I can't really see world record though.
As to what seems to be the other bone of contention, the 18 frames of brood claim, the original statement is confusing, ie, what does 18 frames of brood over 2 cycles mean? Me, I have no idea.
If it simply means 18 frames over 3 boxes, with various amounts of brood, nothing really ultra remarkable about that.
For purposes of comparison with Tim's video, I have posted a pic of a hive with a normal complement of bees in the supers. The hive with the lid off is 6 deeps, which if med boxes had been used for honey would be around 8 boxes total, similar to Tim's, just, a lot more bees in my hives. By the way, the smaller hives pictured are not because they have been used to boost the bigger hives, it is because ALL the hives pictured were left over nucs, some only been put in boxes within the last couple months. They are 10 frame deeps, I spread the combs wider in honey boxes to 8 frames per 10 frame box to make easier honey extracting, plus the bees can get more honey in a box.
Not trying to detract from Tim at all, I'm sure he has developed a method to get a good crop. The method appears successful in his area, it will not be successful in some other areas.
Last edited by Oldtimer; 05-07-2013 at 03:26 PM.
44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).