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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    I have been having this same problem this year also. First round of acceptance was awfull. Did everything just like last year. Make up mating nucs on Sunday and Monday and put queen cells in Monday afternoon. Cells normally hatch Tuesday around noon. Cells not used in nucs were left in incubator to sell as virgins.

    When I went back to cage queens only got around 30 % takes. Probably 50% had young virgins running around. You could tell the queens emerged from the cells but they killed them and raised their own emergency queen.

    Thinking back I remember that the virgins were emerging from the cells in the incubator later than normal. I have changed to placing the cell in the nuc to Tuesday morning. It may be that the longer it takes for the queen to emerge it gives the nuc more of a chance to start emergency cells of their own and then kill the queen when she emerges.

    Johnny

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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    So, the nucs were checked carefully, all cells were culled and new cells were put in. They have now killed about 50% of the second lot of virgins. There is a light flow on. I'm very disappointed about this situation.

  3. #23
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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    Where are you from? The USA is a big country. Maybe it has something to do w/ where you live?
    Mark Berninghausen
    The answers are the end. The questions are the journey. Journey on.



  4. #24
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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    I'm in Newberry, Florida. Maybe AHB is causing the problem.

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    I am doing a cut out of the mature cell within 2-3 days of hatching. Then I put her inside a
    hair roller cage and seal one end with a small window screen. And seal the other end with the cell
    wax and some bee wax. Then I place this about to emerge queen inside the hive between the
    frames so the bees can feed her. Hopefully they will be more willing to accept her this way. After
    they have accepted her then I will release her within a few days.

  6. #26
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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    Another possibility is that, for whatever reason, the cells are not being fed adequately or were raised from larvae that were too old. Well developed cells are normally accepted by queenless, broodright nucs. Cell protectors are unnecessary.
    Last edited by Gino45; 05-02-2013 at 08:06 AM.

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Virgins hatch in mating nuc and then the bees kill them

    You aren't grafting drone larvae are you?
    Mark Berninghausen
    The answers are the end. The questions are the journey. Journey on.



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