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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    I didn't take any pictures of what I built. Here's a link to the video I got the idea from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5yWQCARkUw I used a larger piece of plywood on the deck of the saw than he did, and I only made one 15 degree sled and just use spacers on the sled when cutting the shorter ends of the boxes. I didn't see a need for 2 sleds when a spacer is quick and easy to stick on. I set my blade at a 20 degree angle which with the sled being built at 15% gives a nice undercut on the handle. Really makes it easy to grab hold of.

    One thing I figured out yesterday that is much easier on the blade and saw is to "drop" the material to be cut into the sled when the sled is pushed against the backstop. That lets the dado blade cut the deepest part of the notch using the tips of the blade, instead of the sides of the tips to cut with. I then lift up the sled and material then slide it into the blade as he does in the video. That may not make sense, and if it doesn't, let me know and I'll try to take a short video tomorrow of how I'm cutting them.

  2. #42
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    nope, I got it. thanks for the video. I kinda like the idea of of using the table saw better than the skill saw.

  3. #43
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    If you are looking for a safe, easy, fast, way to make the handles, here is a link to my u-tube video to make them with a SkilSaw. Beesource has the plans to make the jig in their, "Make it Yourself", library or, I will e-mail to you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaWRjpJ5f0w

    cchoganjr

  4. #44
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Thanks for the input on cleats, guys. I guess I'm leaning toward using 2" x 8" material for the short ends and carving out a really deep smile pocket. That should also make VERY strong joints. Of course, it means all new tops and bottoms....ugh!

  5. #45
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Quote Originally Posted by rnsykes View Post
    I kinda like the idea of of using the table saw better than the skill saw.
    Me too. I've had a skill saw kick back on me one too many times. I much prefer a table saw.

    One thing I'll add is that on the 15% sled, if you make it 1 1/2" wider than the long side of a box it will help when adding the cleats on the ends of the sled. You really only need a cleat on the right side of the sled, if you slide it towards the blade from the clockwise rotation side, but put a 1 1/2" wide cleat on each end of the sled, leaving about 1/8" gap on the left side for wiggle room. This will let each cleat stick over the end of the sled by 3/4" and will give a nice hand hold on the sled. My cleats only stick over about 1/4" but I can still use them as a handhold. With a handhold on each end of the sled, you can hold the work piece on the sled with each thumb and keep your fingers wrapped on the handhold which keeps them safely away from the saw blade.

  6. #46
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Brad Bee If you build the jig that I use for the Skil Saw, it cannot kick back. It is already against the side stop. There is no where to kick to. I am not freehanding but rather using a jig which holds the saw inside the stops.

    I have made thousands of hand holds and have never, ever, had even the slightest problem .

    But, whatever works for you.

    cchoganjr

  7. #47
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Maybe some of you guys are still on here if you will google
    John Rohrer. he built one nice all joints on a end at once do a box in less than one min. video on youtube i just ordered one he in wakeman OH

  8. #48
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    John Rhorer YouTube Link CLICK HERE

  9. #49
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Anyone know what the Rhorer machine sells for?

    cchoganjr

  10. #50
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Cleo, on another thread $3500 was mentioned.

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...84#post1087184
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  11. #51
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Thanks Radar.

    It sure looks like a good machine.

    cchoganjr

  12. #52
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    Default Re: Hive Box Manufacture

    Yep 3500 bucks in a couple wk will let you know how good i will be driving to Oh. and pick mine up

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