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  1. #1
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    Default Advice on a honey-bound foundationless hive.

    I have a hive (2 deeps , one med super) that swarmed a week or so ago because it was honey bound. I opened it up yesterday and found some honey in the super, the whole of the upper deep full of nectar and honey, some small space for a queen to lay in lower deep plus lots of pollen and some capped brood. No other eggs or brood. I found 2 virgin queens in there.
    I know if I wait a few days the virgin queens will go out for an " hour on the town" and come back pregnant and start laying eggs. My question is how to get the honey out of that lovely foundationless comb in the upper deep. I can't extract it- It will fall apart. I tried placing empty frames between honey frames and all they do is ignore the empty frames and build fatter comb on the already drawn.
    Any ideas????

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    Default Re: Advice on a honey-bound foundationless hive.

    Well, you can cut & strain (but that kills the "lovely foundationless comb"), cut out the comb to sell as comb honey (worth more $$ that way, but still costs you the comb), or, if you have/are willing to get/make a MANUAL exctractor, you could try spinning them slowly...it'd likely take quite a bit of time to empty them but, if done carefully enough, it could get the honey out without blowing out the combs.

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    Default Re: Advice on a honey-bound foundationless hive.

    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Advice on a honey-bound foundationless hive.

    Michael - I tried that before they swarmed even . Didn't do a lot of good. They continued to extend the drawn combs that were full of honey , making them fatter and not starting any new comb on the new empty frames. But who knows when there is a good laying queen in there they will change their mind.

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    Default Re: Advice on a honey-bound foundationless hive.

    >They continued to extend the drawn combs that were full of honey , making them fatter and not starting any new comb on the new empty frames.

    In the brood nest? I have never seen them do that in the brood nest. They always do that in the supers where they are storing honey.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Advice on a honey-bound foundationless hive.

    Well, I haven't seen anyone else using a super on a TBH box lately...but I think Michael's point here, enchplant, is that you need to place the empty bars between BROOD combs, NOT open honey combs

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