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  1. #1
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    Default what people think of this base?

    What are the pros and cons of this idea?
    Does it really work?
    Thankyou
    Ralph
    hope you can see the picture

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    I like it! Plan to build some very similar. In fact will steal some of your design. The pipe legs will be very easy to set into cut off milk jugs and filled with water or oil (I plan to use PVC pipe). Best ant stop! Looks like the stand and bottom board is one unit, why not, seems a good idea to me. Can you give us a link so we can read and look at the whole thing?
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    Hello,
    I was more talking about the mesh base instead of normal timber
    But i have attached some more pics of this stand for you
    Thank you for the idea of the ant stopper
    I suppose the water that you use in the pvc pipes could also be used as drinking water for the bees
    Could this happen?
    Thanks
    Ralph
    img021.jpgimg022.jpg

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    Just by the way this is scanned from a book
    Ralph

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    SBB (screened bottom boards) do help, and what they say is accurate, however they are only 1 part of IPM to control varroa mites. A SBB won't do it alone in most cases. They also help with ventilation if your enviroment is really hot. They're more costly then a standard bottom board. You'll need a second standard bottom board or a slide in closure if it gets cold and snowy where you live. Sorry, don't know the weather in Austrailia. Just remember that feral hives don't use them.

    I can't see you needing it in Austrailia unless it's really hot. Last I heard (12/2013) Austrailia was still varroa free. Has this changed?

    Wisnewbee
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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    overrated who ha in my opinion. I just make cribbing 2 tiers high from scrap 4x4s and put a solid bottom board over that. The amount of mites that actually fall through the screen is negligible when you consider that most of the mites in the hive are found in the brood cells not loose on bees anyway
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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    I now don't think i will bother about having one
    But now that raisers a ventilation question
    Will the hive entrance be enough ventilation?
    Or should i ask this question on another sub forum?
    Thanks
    Ralph

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    In my opinion it's too much ventilation.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    SBB in humid Tennessee is not working well for me. I am still experimenting with them but feel they negatively effect my bees due to excess moisture which I consider to be one of Tennessee's bigger winter killer of bees. (next to starvation and mites)

    I think they have their place (SBB) but they don't seem to work well here.

    Australia might be really dry though. If it works....

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    Ralph, everything comes with a price tag. You will drown some bees so keep the water containers small, just big enough to stop the ants. Remove them unless you have ants. You could fab some covers but simplicity will go away, so it is a trade off. Press on.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    Quote Originally Posted by julysun View Post
    You could fab some covers but simplicity will go away, so it is a trade off. Press on.
    hello,
    thankyou for your replies
    what do you mean by this julysun?
    thankyou
    ralph

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    some covers for the ant trap?
    ralph

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    Default Re: what people think of this base?

    Yes, some bees will drown in the water cups and you could devise a cover to keep them out but it would be complicated. I use rough bowls and make sure the water is dirty or murky so the bees can see it well, stops drowning. The rough edge on the bowls give them a good grip yet does not let the ants cross.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

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