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  1. #1
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    Default acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Hi, All! After a series of bee markings I find it frustrating that the worker
    bees would removed the paints off my queen bees. Worker and drone bees are
    o.k. to mark as their grooming was not that frequent. So an idea came to mind
    to glue a dab of Titebond III on her back first. Then just before the glue dry
    out put a small spot of cheap acrylic paint on top of the glue. The glue and the acrylic
    paint dry out quickly to make a tight fit on the queen bee. Cannot find the testor paints so
    I bought the cheap one.
    Has anybody tried this approach before? You think it will work compared to the other
    paints that fall off in a few seasons?
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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Since this is a new idea I thought to just post my recent result.
    Checked on the marked queen today after releasing her back into the hive last night.
    It is almost one day passed. I was thinking that the worker bees might have removed the
    paints and glue off her upon opening the hive. We'll see in a few days what happen.
    Can you still see the red dot on the queen even though the pics not that clear?
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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Why are you experimenting with glue and paint?

    I have disks for marking this year, but will still lightly mark the virgins with a paint pen as they hatch. Later after they are mated I may add a disk. (Mann Lake carries the 'queen marking numbers' now)

    http://www.mannlakeltd.com/beekeepin...es/page55.html



    For those that don't know what a disk is, below is a disk marked queen.
    Last edited by Lauri; 04-14-2013 at 08:33 PM.

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    That is a nice size queen. Yes, Lauri. They have good grooming behaviors at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd464K3u5aA
    Even the newly emerged bees got groomed too by 4-5 worker bees. I think I got the good grooming
    bees from the local drones here. We do have a beekeeper 5 minutes from my hives. I always thought
    he got the hygenic type bees. That is why I use glue on her back first to make a secure hold after the
    paints dry. It is a simple process with a marking tube.

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Today I marked the second queen. This is not a yellowish queen but a
    darker color one. As always I put some TB3 on her back and put 2 layers
    of red paint afterward. You think it looks like a carni queen?
    Two down and 2 to go.

    Here are some pics of her.
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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Do you have a Michael's Crafts there? They have Testor's model paint. I have had third year queens that it had worn down to a crescent. That seems like a huge amount of work just to mark a queen. I never had a marked queen for the first 15 years that I had them. The Italian queens seemed really easy to find. After I got Carni's and raising my own I started marking them, mostly because it is so easy and does help you know if your queen has been superseded.

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Gotta agree with beedeetee. Seems like you're working REALLY hard to mark a queen. Last season I tried a new pen and have had good results. Try:

    http://www.michaels.com/Sharpie-Oil-...efault,pd.html
    Horseshoe Point Honey -- http://localvahoney.com/

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    I just put my Mann Lake queen finder goggles on, who needs to mark em.

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    > I just put my Mann Lake queen finder goggles on

    If Mann Lake is out of stock, here is an alternative:


    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Quote Originally Posted by AstroBee View Post
    Gotta agree with beedeetee. Seems like you're working REALLY hard to mark a queen. Last season I tried a new pen and have had good results. Try:

    http://www.michaels.com/Sharpie-Oil-...efault,pd.html
    I'm looking online at amazon.com. These look like a good way to double mark my queens . One mark with standard year color and another off color mark or stripe for strain.
    My question to you is, did you like the fine tip or medium tip for marking?

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    I just put tape over her eyes and wings and then spray her with crylon.... sometime her legs stick together but that is ok... All kiding aside I just use a marking pen, never had a problem...

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    i love it ...rader

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    Default Re: acrylic paint + TBond III + unmark queen = ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauri View Post
    My question to you is, did you like the fine tip or medium tip for marking?
    I have the medium. It is very similar in size (perhaps slightly finer) to the uni POSCA that you get at the bee houses.
    Horseshoe Point Honey -- http://localvahoney.com/

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