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  1. #1
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    Default Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    I need about 3,800 frames, so I'd buy from Pierco because it comes out cheaper. But I'm wondering if Mann Lake is better.

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    I would post this in the commercial forum.

    Personally, I say "none of the above". We inherited about 1000 plastic frames from the early 80's, and have yet to find an economical way to reuse/recycle them. We buy only crimped wire wax.

    crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    i would recommend wax ... I have NO luck with plastic frames , my girls would build between the frames ,, if they did any thing with plastic frames

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    I bought a bunch of nucs 4 wood frames 1 plastic frame. The plastic frame were old, not a one drawn out.

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    Mann Lakes have straight foundation. Very often Piercos foundation in the plastice frames is quite warped. My bees don't have any problems drawing either of them out.

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    I like mann lake for the same reason westernbeekeeper mantioned. when I cycle them out of the hives I scrape a bit, and presure wash with hot water. clean as new,

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    Ten bears, how long does it take to pressure wash a frame - seconds or minutes? I am thinking of doing this.

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    I don't use a pressure washer on plastic frames I prefer to freeze them for a day or two and then use 5-1 scraper to scrap wax off but I don't try to scrape all off. I scrape down to a point where it leaves a fuzz of wax about a 1/4 " high on frames and the bees work on them from there, this process leaves wax on the frames and I save the rest for wax melter.
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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    Are you talkiing Mann Lake asking price or "What is the best you will do price?" They are not always the same. I have little problem getting either drawn out if the bees are on a flow. I buy unwaxed ML because it is cheaper and coat them myself but I have clean old wax and time.

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    Having tried both I would go with Mann Lake again if I was ordering plastic frames. Heftier by far and the ones with metal embedded take a lot of abuse.
    Raising Vermont Bees one mistake at a time.
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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    I have 3,000 of the PF120s. They are more fragile than I would like, but not that fragile. I got them back before the price went up and they were cheap, but my main reason was the cell size was 4.94mm and that solves my Varroa issues...

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    Default Re: Would you recommend Pierco, or Mann Lake plastic frames?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Quiney WI View Post
    Ten bears, how long does it take to pressure wash a frame - seconds or minutes? I am thinking of doing this.
    I have a rack that holds 10 frames two wide 5 down i made of 2"x3"wood. I scrape of the bulk of the wax being sure not to actually scrape the foundation. then turn the hot water on to my presure washer. I spray off the one side of the ten then flip and do the other although I have never timed it and I do bunches at a time. I would say maybe 10 minuets to do 10 frames. once preped

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