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  1. #1
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    Default check my bee math, please

    28 days ago I opened my hive for an inspection: 2 brood boxes and a honey super. I never spotted the queen but I did aggressively remove drone comb from the outside bottoms of several frames. By the time I was finished I had not seen the queen and started to worry I had knocked her off.

    Yesterday I opened it up again and found lots of capped brood, pollen, honey, and very few larva. I didn't see eggs, but my old eyes are not so good. I did find about 6 queen cells, which I left alone

    Am I right to think my queen is still there since any egg she laid 28 days ago is already hatched, so the sight of capped brood shows she survived my first inspection: the oldest capped brood is 20 days, new bees emerge on day 21, right?

    Some other math I enjoy: 21 days ago I harvested 1 1/2 gallons from a full medium honey super, yesterday it was 95% full again - time to get more honey!

  2. #2
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    Default Re: check my bee math, please

    Your assumptions are correct. The fact, though, that they have been on a good flow, you aren't seeing eggs and you have spotted some cells most likely indicates the hive is preparing to swarm.
    "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney

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    Default Re: check my bee math, please

    Or has very recently swarmed. Or may be swarming right now!
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

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    Default Re: check my bee math, please

    The bees with hold food to trim the Q down to flying/swarm weight. That also stops egg laying as well. Once the Q cells are capped, if they haven't swarmed, it will be soon unless there is an intervention. . So, now until your new queen starts to lay, (more bee math) no brood to feed. More honey too.
    Rick

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    Default Re: check my bee math, please

    Sorry to get off topic, but Rick the withholding food from the queen when there is more nectar and pollen coming in than any other time of the year doesn't make sense. More likely the brood nest is full of nectar so the queen has less and less cells to lay in. So her ovaries shrink. Makes it a good time to swarm.

  6. #6
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    Default Re: check my bee math, please

    Some good info here, thanks

    There were a LOT of bees in the hive when I last opened it. 2 deeps and a medium honey super with bees on every frame. Does this suggest that a swarm has not happened? After a swarm I would expect about 1/2 as many bees.

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