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    Default Re: Researchers recreate bee collapse with pesticide-laced corn syrup

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's not true adding a line of text to a label takes minutes costs pennies stop making up stuff
    Hey, making up stuff works pretty well. The proposition was defeated.

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    Default Re: Researchers recreate bee collapse with pesticide-laced corn syrup

    At this point no one knows the long term health effects of Bt corn or sugar beets or cotton or round up ready crops or any other GMO produced food.Labeling such products gives the consumer the choice to decide if the want to beee a part of this research or not.
    I’m really not that serious

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    Default Re: Researchers recreate bee collapse with pesticide-laced corn syrup

    Quote Originally Posted by rhaldridge View Post
    Hey, making up stuff works pretty well. The proposition was defeated.
    Did you just make that up?? :-)
    I’m really not that serious

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    Default Re: Researchers recreate bee collapse with pesticide-laced corn syrup

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    At this point no one knows the long term health effects of Bt corn or sugar beets or cotton or round up ready crops or any other GMO produced food. Labeling such products gives the consumer the choice to decide if the want to beee a part of this research or not.
    Consumers already have the choice to purchase strictly non-GMO foods if they want to:
    http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pa...-labeling.aspx

    "We oppose mandatory labeling of food and ingredients developed from GM seeds in the absence of any demonstrated risks, as it could be interpreted as a warning or imply that food products containing these ingredients are somehow inferior to their conventional or organic counterparts.

    FDA allows food manufacturers the choice to voluntarily label their products noting certain attributes or production methods (e.g., organic) provided the label is truthful and not misleading. We support this approach. Food companies are in the best position to determine what type of information meets the needs and desires of their customers.

    A Range of Available Product Choices
    Many labeled certified organic or non-GM products are available for consumers who prefer to consume them, consistent with their personal preferences. These varied offerings provide additional choices for all consumers and avoid the potential of misleading the public with mandated labeling that raises concerns about the quality, safety or healthfulness of the products they have come to know and trust."

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    Default Re: Researchers recreate bee collapse with pesticide-laced corn syrup

    >Consumers already have the choice to purchase strictly non-GMO foods if they want to

    But not because Monsanto wanted it that way... They sued to prevent honest labeling of food...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_...ropin#Labeling
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/12/bu...-hormones.html
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Cool Re: Researchers recreate bee collapse with pesticide-laced corn syrup

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDiamond View Post
    Consumers already have the choice to purchase strictly non-GMO foods if they want to:
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    It' the rest of the people that have no idea what organic food is. Interesting study here http://grist.org/food/the-latest-gmo...an-it-answers/ In 1999, Starlink® corn, a variety with the Bt insecticide transgene, was released
    on the market, approved only for animal feed, as it contains a highly stable
    and allergenic protein that is difficult to break down in the mammalian digestive
    system. Insufficient protocols for separating feed corn from food corn
    resulted in contamination of food corn with Starlink corn. Unknown numbers
    of consumers, probably in the thousands, were sickened due to allergic reactions
    to the proteins. the Starlink incident underlines several points. more
    Horizontal transfer of transgenes to other organisms has been found, most significantly
    to bacteria within the mammalian gut. the CaMV promoter gene
    that is included in the transgene package is important in facilitating horizontal
    transfer and has been found to be active in human enterocyte-like cells (Myhre
    et al., 2006). A UK experiment showed that transgenic DnA can survive digestion
    and transfer to bacteria DnA in the human gut (Smith, 2007). Several
    studies have shown horizontal transfer of transgenes to occur in test animals
    fed transgenic foods (Latham and Steinbrecher, 2004; traavik and Heinemann,
    2007). the other gene in the package, the antibiotic resistance gene, is of particular
    concern given the possible development of antibiotic resistant enteric
    bacteria. Genetic engineers had made the assumption, without adequate
    experimental verification, that DnA does not survive the early stages of digestion

    there are, in fact, no data comparing the food safety profiles of GM versus
    conventional breeding, and the ubiquitous argument that ‘since there is no
    evidence that GM products make people sick, they are safe’ is both illogical
    and false. there are, again, simply no data or even valid assays to support
    this contention. Without proper epidemiological studies, most types of harm
    will not be detected, and no such studies have been conducted (Schubert,
    2008).
    Fact is now one knows if this stuff is safe or not and folks have a right to know wats in the food they purchase.
    I’m really not that serious

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