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    Default Forbes Magazine Article on "Science collapse disorder"

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentin...ss-bee-deaths/

    Australia presents the most striking dilemma for those isolating their attacks on neonics. On a per crop basis, it is one of the world’s heaviest users of the pesticide—and has among the healthiest bee colonies in the world. Government records indicate there has not been even one adverse experience report from either the public or beekeepers concerning the use of neonics. The other thing they don’t see in Australia—but we do see everywhere else in the world where CCD is claimed—is the Varroa mite, the culprit in the 2005/06 bee death march.

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    Default Re: Forbes Magazine Article on "Science collapse disorder"

    an email our club received had the following warning/information on the above article. not sure of what they are driving at as I would assume that forbes checks the info in the articles.


    Just a quick note - the Forbes site has become a massive aggregator of stories from various people and companies (including my employer). Unless something says "Forbes staff", it's not necessarily from the magazine.

    Contributor Jon Entine's actual affiliation - it's clear, but the link from Forbes is weirdly broken - is with these folks:

    http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/

    That may be just as good as Forbes, or better, depending on your take, but it's worth noting that Forbes today is something different from Forbes of yesteryear.

    Thanks,
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    Default Re: Forbes Magazine Article on "Science collapse disorder"

    Careful camero, that doesn't follow the accepted protocol of blaming neonics... you will be assulted for pointing it out!

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    Default Re: Forbes Magazine Article on "Science collapse disorder"

    Assuming that is true it's pretty compelling evidence.

    Only a little bit off subject, but I bet I'm not the only one seeing google adds for Bayer Crop science all over the place on beesource. If the ag chemical industry really wants to build genuine good will and co-operation with bee keepers toward the goal of coexistence of agriculture and healthy bees, they should put some of their awesome powers toward developing some safe cheap and highly effective treatments for varroa and N. Cerane. If mites and disease, and not crop chemicals are really the only cause of CCD they could kill several birds with that stone.
    since '09-25H-T-Z6b

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    Default Re: Forbes Magazine Article on "Science collapse disorder"

    Warren Jones explains about his role:

    “I am the President of the Crop Pollination Association Inc. This association represents the beekeeper pollinators that service agriculture's pollination requirements across a broad range of crops in all eastern states, Western Australia,Tasmania and NT, which has no members at present.

    We provide representation to AHBIC, the peak body established to represent all sectors of beekeeping.”

    You’ll see from the document that Warren Jones’ experience and service to agriculture spans 34 years.

    In relation to this issue, of particular interest to me was this comment:

    Page 4

    “There has been a wide use of neonicotinoids to treat a large range of pasture seed and other seed prior to planting which includes most of our horticulture and vegetable production. Consequently our bees are continually in contact with neonicotinoids from the agricultural environment. We are finding it very difficult to maintain our hives at pollination strength, requiring an increase in use of young queens and replacement nucleus hives to maintain our hives”


    http://www.buzzaboutbees.net/support...inatorssoc.pdf

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    Interesting info about the author. If you believe this, he's a flak-catcher for the agrichemical industry.

    http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...yes-jon-entine

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