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  1. #1
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    Default Is this a good deal for shallows?

    A older member of our club has gotten out of the bee business and has a lot of 10 frame shallows for sale.
    I'm about to purchase more woodenware and wasn't sure what to do.

    I had wanted to use deeps and mediums but this seems to good to pass up.
    The woodenware is in good condition and have purchased deeps and shallows from him previously.

    He has:
    300- 10 frame Shallows $4/ea
    6- ten frame Shallows with frames and new foundation $12/ea

    I've got 12 ten frame Deeps ready to go with mostly drawn comb to make 12 hives.
    This years plan is for any new hives to have two deeps and then other sized supers on top.

    If I buy the used shallows with frames and foundation, I think I'll save about $10 over getting all new stuff.
    Thats $60 I could use for other equipment.
    I might get 40 empty shallows and keep them around.

    What do you all think?
    Last edited by Allen; 04-11-2013 at 01:01 PM.

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    The first boxes I bought was when I got 3 used ones from a beek who was going to all mediums. I was lucky I did not bring in any diseases. My personal policy now is that I don't buy used woodenware. It's just not worth the risk. Also, by the time I do repairs I could have built a new one so there is no time saved. New deeps cost me 5.50 or 6.50 (can't recall which), mediums a dollar less, shallows 2 dollars less. So, no money saved, either by buying used. -js

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    306 shallows is 25 per hive for 12 hives. You will need to have a good flow to require that many supers.

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    Price-wise, it seems like a good deal to me, compared to buying the boxes, frames and foundation new from your run-of-the-mill beekeeping store.
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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    306 shallows is 25 per hive for 12 hives. You will need to have a good flow to require that many supers.
    When I wrote about 12 hives it was probably misleading, wasn't planning to buy all of the shallows. May buy 40 shallows or so.
    Last edited by Allen; 04-12-2013 at 09:16 PM.

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    Sounds about right to me. Pick out the best ones. Are the $12.00 ones brand new?
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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    I'm not sure.

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    I wouldn't pay $12.00 unless they were.

    I have bought deeps for $10.00 for a box in good shape and $1.00 per comb as long as the frames were in good shape.

    At $4.00 per shallow, w/ comb, the price hasn't gone up since the last time I bought shallows. Pick out the best.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    I just got through making 9 so I am fresh on this price. I can make 10 frame med boxes for about $9 each total cost. frames and all. no foundation. Most of that cost is the box. frames require little material lots of work.

    With that in mind if I would say he has a good price on the boxes. and great prices on the boxes with frames and foundation. No cutting involved and at worst they still need to be assembled. if not that makes the deal even better.

    I am not sure I would even use foundation in shallow boxes. I am iffy on using it in meds.
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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Y View Post
    I am not sure I would even use foundation in shallow boxes. I am iffy on using it in meds.
    Since he is going to buy combs already in frames and an old beekeeper made them and is selling them, in all likelihood, they are already wired and foundation was used. Old school technique and it works, if you want to keep most of your comb in most of your frames when you extract. Experiences vary.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    The frames do not have drawn comb.
    Mark, where can I find supers for those low prices?

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    Well that's too bad. Do they have frames? What happened to all of the comb?

    Got a wayback machine?
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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    He doesn't have drawn comb, just frames and foundation which are new.
    I have drawn comb in Deep frames from last years bees.
    His shallows are in good condition and clean.
    I do have an oxy/acetylene outfit and could torch the boxes.

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    Default Re: Is this a good deal for shallows?

    buy some. if you want deeps just make a shim to the required width and screw them on. I have deeps that are made from mediums and a shim.
    thats the way i roll.

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