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  1. #1
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    Default Splits in Queen Castle

    I split two of my hives and ended up with a lot of resources to make nucs. I filled a queen castle of 3 frame sections by 3. Filled each with a frame of full brood, one with honey and brood, and the other with a combination of brood, nectar, honey, and a queen cell or two.

    I am feeling like it will get quite crowded before the queen starts laying. Am I thinking this out clearly, or will they be fine for another 30+ before I check for laying?

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    I think your set up should be fine. But be sure to check on them so they not swarm with 2 queens in the same
    hive since so crowded.

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    I would check in well less than 30 days. The sealed brood will quickly emerge and give the bees storage room. If it gets too full of honey take out a frame of just honey and put in one of foundation.

    I build nucs using queens in a similiar setup but with mated queens, I have the latitude to move the middle nuc and put a divider in the middle and pull the outside two and now I have a five frame nuc. Mine have screened bottoms and sit on a strong unsplit colony and benefit from its heat.

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    This might be a dumb question but you shake nurse bees in with the frames too, right? And then the workers fly back to their original home?
    I just ordered a queen castle and want to try making a few this month and just want to make sure I would be doing it right. thanks...

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    I was floundering with this question myself. When I made the splits into the castle I decided which brood frame I was going to use and I simple had cut the capped queen cell out of the wax foundation to add. There was a quite a bit of loss; however, I think I found a possible solution.

    When setting up the queen castle I put it a few feet away from the rest of my hives. I had a couple hives open and picked two full frames of brood that was literally dripping with bees. I put these frames in the box first. I came back later with the honey frame and the frame I intended to use with the queen cell. Because I put the original brood frames full of bees in side they were confused and a lot of them climbed off the frames and began fanning inside. This gave me a surplus of bees for the final frames to be placed in the queen castle.

    It may seem messy and during a dearth would not be wise. But the flow is strong now and splitting seems easy.

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    Thanks. I'm doing a split class tomorrow and will also ask. I'm glad I'm not the only one a bit confused!

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    Just checked the box... found a virgin queen marching around checking the other queen cell that was with her. Hope the others will be out too.

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    She will kill that cell now, no?

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    Default Re: Splits in Queen Castle

    Well everything is divided so made three separate sections that the bees and especially the queen can't move between sections. Turns a 10 frame into a 3 way nuc. A lot of folks make it into a 4 way nuc with 2 frames each, but I liked the idea of puting the entry holes on three sides and putting the other side against the fence. Additionally, 3 sections of 3 frames ends up with more room for her to lay, if I get held up or lazy before I put in their own 5 frame nuc. Glad its all working out.

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