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    Default Expanding/splitting the brood nest to increase population

    Hello,

    I was doing a search on the forum on splitting the brood nest, but alot of the posts were concerning preventing swarming, which is not an issue in my case.

    I have a 10 frame hive that overwintered fine and has approx 7 frames of bees (frames covered in bees that is. I noticed yesterday that the queen was laying a very good pattern, and that the brood area was two frames of just about all capped brood. The queen had not expanded beyond this, but clearly needed a place to lay and could not find it as on these two frames in any cell that was not capped were multiple eggs. I did not want to be too disturbing, so I added an empty frame next to these to frames. Rather than the queen getting a chance to lay in it, the bees that already one day later filled the comb with drying nectar, which is what was in the frame there previously.

    So today I was a bit more drastic and separated the two brood frames and placed a drawn out empty frame in between.-- We don't have any very cold nights in the forecast so I think I will be alright in terms of chilling the brood.

    This is going to work as an effective way to increase the queens laying--I can always put the brood nest back together tomorrow if I find out by anyone here that this could be a big mistake (we do have maple blooming now plus the hive has a feeder on it as well)

    Let me know what you all think
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    Default Re: Expanding/splitting the brood nest to increase population

    Quote Originally Posted by xcugat View Post
    So today I was a bit more drastic and separated the two brood frames and placed a drawn out empty frame in between.
    I did this before to allow more room for the queen to lay. Since you have 7 frame full of bees you don't need to do this. But I don't see
    any harm with this method. Under natural condition the queen will lay in the empty cells after the broods had hatched.


    Quote Originally Posted by xcugat View Post
    This is going to work as an effective way to increase the queens laying--I can always put the brood nest back together tomorrow if I find out by anyone here that this could be a big mistake
    You don't need to move the frame out as long as there are enough bees to cover the broods to avoid the chilled broods then it is fine.

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    Default Re: Expanding/splitting the brood nest to increase population

    Well it worked 24 hours later queen is on frame and laying so I guess she is pleased to have the space
    http://www.peekskillnurseries.com
    Specialists in Ground Cover plants since 1937. Talk to me about ground-covers!

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