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  1. #1
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    Default Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    I have been a BK for one year. My buddy (who just started and thinks he already knows it all) is trying to convince me that the spacers that bring a 10-frame down to a 9-frame (or 8-frame down to a 7-frame) will produce much more honey (He thinks around 20% more). I don't see how this is possible. I seems to me that the only thing you would really be gaining is one less bee space in between frames by having one less frame.
    Has anyone ever tried running your supers this way? Any pros or cons that you are aware of?
    One-Arm-BeeMan

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    I run all my hives this way, can't see getting much more honey per super... The main reason to do it is for ease of uncapping, the bees will bring the wax out further... You will however end up with a little more wax, for what it's worth

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    I've had bees for ONE week so I am sure I know it all! lol What I have been told is the girls will draw out deeper comb making it easier to de-cap and yes, produce more honey.

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    I've been doing 9 and it definitely makes more honey. I'm trying 8 this year.
    Go to Heaven for the climate, go to Hell for the company. -Mark Twain

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    we run 8 frames in 10 frame supers in honey supers. more honey will extract from 8 frames vs 10. however the hive will not produce more or less honey. the thicker combs simply hold more honey.

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    Forget the spacers, though. Once you nail them in there, that's all that box can be.
    Go to Heaven for the climate, go to Hell for the company. -Mark Twain

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    Quote Originally Posted by beeware10 View Post
    the hive will not produce more or less honey. the thicker combs simply hold more honey.
    Yeah, what he said.
    Go to Heaven for the climate, go to Hell for the company. -Mark Twain

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    Also have the bees draw the comb with 10 frames in a super, then the next year just put 9 in. That way they won't draw oddly shaped comb as they can if they have the extra space associated with 9 frames of undrawn foundation.

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    Bison nailed it.

    Dont put 9 frames of foundation spaced in a 10 frame box. You will NOT like the results. Other than that 9 frames per box saves you money and time with extracting.

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    I hope your buddy not one of those, I told you so type.

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    Hey Birdman, he's the one eating crow this morning. The overall consensus on here seems to be that this method does NOT increase honey production by 20% per super. He admits now that he mis-read/misunderstood producing more honey per frame for meaning MUCH more per super. I, however called him bright and early to let him apologize!

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    I hope your buddy not one of those, I told you so type.
    One-Arm-BeeMan

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    I believe that you can get a small amount of extra honey in each super using 9 frames rather than 10. Basically because of one less gap between frames. But, your bees won't be collecting any extra honey because of it, your full supers will just be slightly heavier and the last super of the year will be lighter.

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    Default Re: Run 1 frame less for more honey?

    Thank you beedeetee...you recapped exactly what my side of our argument was!
    One-Arm-BeeMan

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