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  1. #1
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    Default Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    Hi Everyone,

    I thought I'd put this out into the forum and get some feedback and suggestions from many of you seasoned swarm collectors.

    Being in the IT industry and a keen beekeeper, I had some experience this year with collecting a few swarms. I felt that we could utilise the latest available technology and make it a lot easier for the general public to report a swarm and get it collected by beekeepers rather than having them killed by pest control companies.

    I am building a specialised web site to cater just for this. I have many ideas that I'll incorporate into the web site but I would like to hear from the community of what they would like to see in it and the functionality they would like to have. Based on your experiences please tell me what is important for you as far as information, notification etc etc.

    I see this as eventually giving the community some very accurate data on where and when swarms occur, how many and any other information you feel is important to collect related to swarms and then provide feedback to the beekeeping community. There are some very good sites with lots of beekeeper contacts but that is where it stops. Hopefully this new site, with your interaction, will gather some very good empirical data which in the current "bee survival crisis" could be extremely useful for the future.

    Please feel free to give me your suggestions no matter how trivial they may seem to you and I'll see if we can incorporate them in this hopefully very interactive site.

    I look forward to your responses and will keep you informed of the progress.

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    You have a bee survival crisis in Australia?
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    From what we read and hear from many sources, there is a "bee survival crisis" world wide - or is the media having us on?? Over the past few years I have lost close to 10 colonies to the SHB - I had not experienced this some 10 years ago. Hopefully NZ is nicely insulated from all this!
    You do have swarms though don't you in NZ???

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    Yes they swarm LOL.

    My bit of input re the web site would be keep it honest. So much advertising I see about this kind of thing is alarmist, either over dramatizing the danger to the person to attempt to get them to use the vendor, or over dramatizing the plight of bees, to shame the person into using the vendor as they must "help the bees" (and have their pocket lightened in the process). Or worst of all, denigrating other people in the same business, pointing out some real or imagined fault with them so therefore the person should use this particular vendor.

    To me, people are not idiots and these tactics can look very shallow. Not to mention they annoy the crap out of me.

    Just give lots of good info, links, etc, but keep it honest. IMHO.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    Thank you for your input and I totally agree. The web site is not going to be a commercial operation by any means and honesty and convenience to both the public and the beekeeper is my aim.

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    Cool. Hoping others also can pitch in with some good ideas.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    What do you guys feel is the preferred method of receiving a notification of a swarm?
    a. email - with details of swarm so you can contact the notifier at your leisure
    b. Text message- with contact details etc so you control return contact
    c. Direct phone call to your published phone no?

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    There are many swarm call lists around the country already, different things work in different places, I doubt a national register will work, but if you want to do it go for it. It has to be broken down into small areas/locations, the people who have the swarm need to be able to directly contact the swarm catchers in the local area.
    The swarm catcher then sorts it out with the person, when, where etc. and how soon they can respond. Unfortunately putting a swarm address up and out there allows more than one beek to go for it, first in first served, which may muck up what has already been arranged by the person with someone else. I have gone (sent my friend in advance, was meeting them there) to a place to pick up a swarm and the person said someone else picked it up, the person said it was first in best dressed. I wouldn't have wasted my time if I had known they were talking to anyone else.
    I have been to many others and the swarm had moved on, one where it swarmed off in front of me and the owner when I arrived, others where there were sticks, rocks and dead bees, (kids). Other SWARMS have been bees getting nectar from flowers, bees getting water from drain pipes, scoutbees, paperwasps beetles, no matter howing how many assurances you get etc etc.
    Size of swarms are usually around 50% of what they say to a max of 75%. Thousands and thousands of bees can mean a fifty to a hundred.

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    Default Re: Swarm Collections -new web site suggestions please!!!

    Thank you 100td for your very good input. I tend to agree with a lot of what you said and have experienced it myself. Communications is the key!!! I am hoping to pride that in a very comprehensive system for both the person reporting the swarm and the Beek picking it up....

    The more feedback I get the more of your experiences I can take into account in the system.

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