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  1. #201
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    I don't have time to see if this has already been posted, but an article from randy oliver on the bees and buzz kill

    http://gallery.mailchimp.com/5fd2b1a...ng2013_opt.pdf
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    getting some heavy loss reports from producers in Manitoba,
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by wildbranch2007 View Post
    from randy oliver on the bees and buzz kill

    http://gallery.mailchimp.com/5fd2b1a...ng2013_opt.pdf
    Good post WB07, there's the data, wonder what there going to blame it on now.......
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    2 nosemas, amoebas and 2 other protozoans= A xenoma (also known as a ‘xenoparasitic complex’)

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Wow that Randy Oliver article is a fascinating read!
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

  6. #206
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    It is a good read. He seems pretty level headed and seems to have a very good feel for what is happening in the industry. Well worth the time to read.

    Jean-Marc

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Randy spends alot of time on this stuff, when does he have time to beekeep?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Randy spends alot of time on this stuff, when does he have time to beekeep?
    Yes. He is a prolific writer, great conference speaker AND a great beekeeper!
    Definitely and thankfully NOT a connoisseur of the cockamamie.
    I have exactly ONE hive more than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond question.

  9. #209
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    ian, my understanding is that any time away from making a living at beekeeping to do research has to be offset by donations. makes sense. i have been making a modest contribution each year as have many others. if any of you have benefited from reading oliver's stuff, consider sending a donation. only fair.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    >>>In the case of Dan Rather,the focus was on the beekeepers with troubles, not
    upon those who successfully filled their pollination contracts.<<<

    Dan sucked me in too,

    >>>Although the hearts of all beekeepers go outto those who suffered severe colony losses,many felt
    thatsome ofthose losses could have been prevented ifthe afflicted beekeepers had beenmore proactive
    than reactive.<<<

    yikes, thats is something Keith would say, lol
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Randy spends alot of time on this stuff, when does he have time to beekeep?
    If you know Randy (I only bump into him now and then), the question is "When does he have time to eat and sleep?" He is a busy man. He still takes time to teach beginner classes, help and speek at the local club, write, speak and teach at conferences, test and trial, ... I really can't even list all the stuff he does from day to day.

    One easy answer is he has his two boys working for him.

    Edit to say- I forgot to mention Keith received a nice reference.
    Last edited by CLICKBANGBANG; 04-21-2013 at 08:01 PM.

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    He showed up in my country recently for a speaking engagement, unfortunately I was not able to attend, wish I could have.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Read this online today
    http://news.yahoo.com/feds-many-caus...152605922.html

    Reported mites were the number #1 cause of ccd.

    What.... who would have ever thought.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Which is what many of us have been saying for a while

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Where does it say "reported mites were the #1 cause" in that link?

    It states "
    The intertwined factors cited include a parasitic mite, multiple viruses, bacteria, poor nutrition, genetics, habitat loss and pesticides."
    Leer Family Honey Farm-Shannon Leer

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Beeslave View Post
    Where does it say "reported mites were the #1 cause" in that link?

    It states "The intertwined factors cited include a parasitic mite, multiple viruses, bacteria, poor nutrition, genetics, habitat loss and pesticides."
    The 5th paragraph at Keith's link says:

    The federal report, issued Thursday by the Agriculture Department and the Environmental Protection Agency, said the biggest culprit is the parasitic mite varroa destructor, calling it "the single most detrimental pest of honeybees."

    http://news.yahoo.com/feds-many-caus...152605922.html
    Keith obviously paraphrased what he read, but the two phrases essentially mean the same thing, in my view.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Thanks. I missed that.
    Leer Family Honey Farm-Shannon Leer

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