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    Default Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Hope you got a chance to see this report on CBS, from a commercial stand point, what did think positive or negitive?

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    What video?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    It sure is quite out their.........
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    I thought he presented things like I understand them to be. What do you think Keith? Did he nail it?

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Jarrett View Post
    It sure is quite out their.........
    Ok, I'll be the one to do it.....do you mean "quiet?"
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    That was put together very well,

    very happy to see a story put together from many different angles, so nice not to hear the ra ra ra of the anti chemical lobby groups
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    Embarrassed Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by snl View Post
    Ok, I'll be the one to do it.....do you mean "quiet?"
    I'm sorry. I'm one of those guys that have trouble pecking at the key board.

    I thought the report was a "cry wolf " as loud as you can. I am not very happy that this is what the bee industry has become.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    was the bee shortage this year as dramatic as they represented?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Jarrett View Post
    I'm sorry. I'm one of those guys that have trouble pecking at the key board.

    I thought the report was a "cry wolf " as loud as you can. I am not very happy that this is what the bee industry has become.
    I too hate whining, and complaining.
    but you must relate to some of what the report had to say?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Pretty depressing. There were certainly elements of truth, but they were mixed with mass generalizations, with an incomplete story. There were high bee losses and that is true. But, they didn't discuss the fact that there also good bees that came out of those same conditions.

    Sunflowers may have saved our summer. There was no sweet clover, the alfalfa was eaten up by weevels early on, and the drought dried up anything else. A late shot of rain caused the sunflowers to kick out a late flow of nectar which was basically the honey crop. The bees that were not near sunflowers had shrunk to small clusters and had high mite loads by the end of the summer, and those hives were the hardest hit this winter. The hives on sunflower nectar were the strongest hives this spring going into and coming out of almonds.

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    but you must relate to some of what the report had to say?
    'relate' that report and me was like water & oil.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Tina, very well said.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tina 2Bees View Post
    Pretty depressing. There were certainly elements of truth, but they were mixed with mass generalizations, with an incomplete story.
    I think that is simply what modern television journalism has become. Since it needs to be appealing to the average person watching TV at the time it airs, it has to be pretty light on real intellectual content.

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    there were a lot of high profile beekeepers in that report,
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ledge View Post
    I think that is simply what modern television journalism has become. Since it needs to be appealing to the average person watching TV at the time it airs, it has to be pretty light on real intellectual content.
    oh ya, I agree,
    but I have to say it was a lot better than most reports on beekeeping issues
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    there were a lot of high profile beekeepers in that report,
    Name a couple Ian
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Adee, Johnston, Miller,

    Im a Canadian, and I have herd of these guys

    do you not consider these guys high profile?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    I watched and IMO the show hit the nail on the head as a state of our industry and some of the challenges we all face.

    I have personal experience with the situation and know or know of everyone that was interviewed.

    One thing I will share is that Lyle Johnson in the past has sounded like some on this site that PPB has been the problem, but reality has caught up with him as with many of us, as the quote goes" these times are a changin"

    As to the sunflowers, yes 70% of all my hives that where anywhere near sunflowers died and the hives furthest away agriculture look great.

    I personally believe all that was stated on the show is accurate because I have had these conversations with all of the beekeeper interviewed , either first or second hand!
    Larry Pender,Jubilee HoneyBee Company,Camarillo, CA

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Adee had MITE problems, Lyle & I had a three hour phone call today, & Miller

    John Miller called me a couple years ago, he said a freind of his sent him my way, said he was losing 30% over the winter and that my sub would help. So when we spoke I recomended two 5 pound rounds in the fall. John said do you know how much money that is... I said do you know how much there paying for dead outs in the almonds.

    Here's the deal Tony Noyes & John Miller run the same places ND summer winter in cellars in ID and almonds CA, but have very different out comes, ones feeds heavy sub & one does not.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by LSPender View Post
    One thing I will share is that Lyle Johnson in the past has sounded like some on this site that PPB has been the problem, but reality has caught up with him as with many of us, as the quote goes" these times are a changin"
    Lyle was refferring to Kenny Haff, Kenny had trouble because he chase the sunflower all summer, a mono crop wont work as a pollen source.
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