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    Default Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Hope you got a chance to see this report on CBS, from a commercial stand point, what did think positive or negitive?

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    What video?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    It sure is quite out their.........
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    I thought he presented things like I understand them to be. What do you think Keith? Did he nail it?

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Jarrett View Post
    It sure is quite out their.........
    Ok, I'll be the one to do it.....do you mean "quiet?"
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    That was put together very well,

    very happy to see a story put together from many different angles, so nice not to hear the ra ra ra of the anti chemical lobby groups
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    was the bee shortage this year as dramatic as they represented?
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    Embarrassed Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by snl View Post
    Ok, I'll be the one to do it.....do you mean "quiet?"
    I'm sorry. I'm one of those guys that have trouble pecking at the key board.

    I thought the report was a "cry wolf " as loud as you can. I am not very happy that this is what the bee industry has become.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Jarrett View Post
    I'm sorry. I'm one of those guys that have trouble pecking at the key board.

    I thought the report was a "cry wolf " as loud as you can. I am not very happy that this is what the bee industry has become.
    I too hate whining, and complaining.
    but you must relate to some of what the report had to say?
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Pretty depressing. There were certainly elements of truth, but they were mixed with mass generalizations, with an incomplete story. There were high bee losses and that is true. But, they didn't discuss the fact that there also good bees that came out of those same conditions.

    Sunflowers may have saved our summer. There was no sweet clover, the alfalfa was eaten up by weevels early on, and the drought dried up anything else. A late shot of rain caused the sunflowers to kick out a late flow of nectar which was basically the honey crop. The bees that were not near sunflowers had shrunk to small clusters and had high mite loads by the end of the summer, and those hives were the hardest hit this winter. The hives on sunflower nectar were the strongest hives this spring going into and coming out of almonds.

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tina 2Bees View Post
    Pretty depressing. There were certainly elements of truth, but they were mixed with mass generalizations, with an incomplete story.
    I think that is simply what modern television journalism has become. Since it needs to be appealing to the average person watching TV at the time it airs, it has to be pretty light on real intellectual content.

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    It sure is quite out their......... perhaps it is a "silent spring" Keith , ItS been a dam cold one here ,if fact its still what I call winter. I though the video was pretty realistic to what has occurred, from what I can ascertain. Lye Johnson is probably right, plant walnuts.The 4.1 count of bees on the grading system in that yard,orchard, would not be your typical grade or average grade of all California bees this year , would it? I know Mr Blue boxes would be double or triple that.I find it incredible that we can put a man on the moon but can't find out whats killing the honeybee.Some disastrous losses in Canada too, and as this winter continues mine climb as well.I wonder what percentage of commercial keepers do not go to almonds

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    There is a myth that a healthy hive can resist mites. Mites actually do well on healthy bees, assuming they are a non resistant strain, course the bees won't stay healthy too long.

    Mites weaken the bees directly by sucking the blood out of them during larval development. Also, mites vector all kinds of viruses. Of course, to bees weakened in such a way, chemical poisons and poor nutrition can be the coup de grass.

    But mostly, keep mites out of the hives, and they can handle everything else way better. Why did all those guys lose hives? In my opinion if the truth gets out, it will in large part have to do with mites. There are reasons why this is sometimes not fully discussed, though.

    In deference to Keith though, I've heard some good things about his feed, and if bees are indeed lacking something and Keith's product can supply it, then this will boost, or save, the hive, in proportion to the need. But from where I am, I don't see a food supplement alone saving a hive from mites.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    I thought the report was a "cry wolf " as loud as you can. I am not very happy that this is what the bee industry has become.


    Keith you better jump on that crying band wagon....how else you going to get $250/ hive next year for almonds

    Is it all about money Keith? OR is the industry suffering

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by irwin harlton View Post
    OR is the industry suffering
    The industry has it's head stuck in the sand.
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    What is the latest news about the self pollinating almond trees that may be coming in the future?

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Haraga View Post
    What is the latest news about the self pollinating almond trees that may be coming in the future?
    Not self pollinating, self fertile. They will need bees but not as many. Not that many being planted ,the market does not like them.

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    what has changed?

    In 2007 glyphosate was the most used herbicide in the United States agricultural sector, with 180 to 185 million pounds (82,000 to 84,000 tonnes) applied, and the second most used in home and garden market where users applied 5 to 8 million pounds (2,300 to 3,600 tonnes); additionally industry, commerce and government applied 13 to 15 million pounds (5,900 to 6,800 tonnes).[5] While glyphosate has been approved by regulatory bodies worldwide and is widely used, concerns about its effects on humans and the environment persist.[6] wiki
    thats more monoculture crop ,no weeds, NO diversification
    How much neonicotinoids, are used in the north American market?
    iTS THE WHOLE ENVIRONMENT THATS TAKING A KICKING, NOT ONLY BEES

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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Quote Originally Posted by irwin harlton View Post
    what has changed?

    In 2007 glyphosate was the most used herbicide in the United States
    Yup, thats a big one for grain farmers. I use to remember our fields almost completely taken over by thistle and quack grass. Now I can not imagine farming with those kind of losses, our fields are clean, due to RR Canola.
    It sucks for beekeepers trying to make honey off of weeds, but its not the beekeepers weeds, remember,
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    Default Re: Dan Rather report on bee shortage in Calif almonds

    Beeslave, have you ever farmed a significant amount of land before?

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