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  1. #1
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    Default Les Crowder Hive

    Hi all,
    We have been enjoying Les Crowder's book and went to build a hive to his drawings. ...they drove me nuts! So, I've tweaked it with accurate dimensions and all angles being 120 degrees. Drawn for 1" lumber (assuming 0.8" thick).
    http://beeuntoothers.com/Crowder%20H...imensioned.pdf

    deknow
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    Default Re: Les Crowder Hive

    I did phils plans from biobees.com because I am not as good of a wood worker and didnt have to do any angle cuts. Make this hive in a snap!

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    Default Re: Les Crowder Hive

    Deknow

    Les Crowder AKA the New Mexico top bar guru has quite a following of purists in this area. Not one would dare question the specific design criteria, size, shapes or dimensions of his bee house. Shame on you, Les will surely be mortified.
    "Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind is secure it is in decay".....Krishnamurti

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    Default Re: Les Crowder Hive

    Quote Originally Posted by Riskybizz View Post
    Deknow
    Les Crowder AKA the New Mexico top bar guru has quite a following of purists in this area. Not one would dare question the specific design criteria, size, shapes or dimensions of his bee house. Shame on you, Les will surely be mortified.
    Um...ok. I don't think Les had an objection when Ramona told him I was going to redreaw/tweak his design. I sent him a copy before I posted it here as well.

    I'm sure his drawing is well suited for his setup and needs. I wanted something that was repeatable for me, with my setup and my approach. I started with his plan, kept what I think are the important dimensions, made the bottom sit flat, and made it actually measure 120 degrees.

    I can make a follower board for a hive built to my drawings without seeing the hive. I don't think I could do the same with one built to his drawings without some custom fitting.

    I'm sure Les will tell me if he thinks any of my changes bother him when he comes to speak at our conference in July.

    deknow
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    Default Re: Les Crowder Hive

    The only actual change that affects the shape/volume of the hive is to add just over 1/2" to the top of the trapezoidal end pieces....making the angles actually measure 120degrees.

    deknow
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    Default Re: Les Crowder Hive

    Dean did you consider a Tanzanian hive? Michael Bush says these develop no more side attachment then the trapezoidal hives, and if you make them the right width and depth, you can switch comb between the top bar and Lang hives. Unfortunately, I made my first top bar to Michael's trapezoidal plans, so in order to split to it, I'm having to go through extra shenanigans, like wiring my top bars to the Lang frames in the hive I want to split from.

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    Default Re: Les Crowder Hive

    I have two existing crowder hives. needing to make a new one before spring. If I followed your dimensions instead, will combs still be moveable between hives? (I'm assuming your changes are minimal but don't have the original plans in front of me to compare).

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