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    Question Fumagilin B

    I may be starting something that has been asked. I would like to know do you use Fumagilin or not? I received two packages and I always treat them with a half gallon of sugar syrup. Is this wrong?????:

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Fumagilin is a treatment, and as such a treatment-free beekeeper would not use it.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Thanks Solomon , I never use any treatments and I get dead hives. I put a concrete slab down for shb , mites I use screen bottom boards. I would rather not use anything in my hives but I hate to lose hives.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon Parker View Post
    Fumagilin is a treatment, and as such a treatment-free beekeeper would not use it.
    I am a treatment beekeeper and I would not use it either. It is very nasty stuff and some studies show it is not effective.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Quote Originally Posted by brd64 View Post
    Is this wrong?????:
    Right or wrong is not really the right question, as that's just something in the mind of somebody who has a set of rules they follow.

    People here, are chemical free. People on a different part of Beesource, are not. Using, or not using, sugar or various chemicals, is neither wrong, nor right. It's just treatment free, or not treatment free. Which is simply a matter of personal choice the beekeeper makes, depending on his goals.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Thank you camero7 and oldtimer, I consider myself chemical free. Althought last year I lost a lot of hives and got some packages to restart. That is why I posting the question to see if it was worth using something or if last year was just a bad year.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Quote Originally Posted by brd64 View Post
    I consider myself chemical free.
    Chemical free is not the same thing as treatment free. Not on this forum anyhow. There is a sticky post at the top of this forum that lists all the things that are considered treatments. It may surprise you. I know it surprised me. Try one of the other forums and the discussion may be more enlightening, but on this forum they really cannot discuss pros and cons of a particular treatment.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Thanks Rusty, I will check it out.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    >I would like to know do you use Fumagilin or not?

    Besides killing off the bacteria that protects the gut of the bee from Nosema, it causes birth defects in mammals (we are mammals).

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnosema.htm
    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0033188

    Try a search on:
    teratogen fumadil
    or
    teratogen fumidil

    te·rat·o·gen [tuh-rat-uh-juhn, -jen, ter-uh-tuh-] a drug or other substance capable of interfering with the development of a fetus, causing birth defects.

    A couple of lists of teratogens on which fumidl is listed:
    http://www.purdue.edu/rem/ih/terat.htm
    http://www.ttuhsc.edu/admin/safety/lab/Teratogens.pdf
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Thanks Micheal, I posted the question to see if anyone used it. I will not try it from what I have read.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Thanks Micheal, I posted the question to see if anyone used it. I will not try it from what I have read.
    This is wrong part of the forum to ask that question since nobody posting the treatment free section would use it. You may get more useful answers in the general section.

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    Default Re: Fumagilin B

    Thanks Aerindel !!!! I have got my answer.

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