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  1. #1
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    Feb 2012
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    Default Found my first Feral Hive Today

    I have been trying to locate this Feral hive since last May when they swarmed over my house. We put sugar water out when ever it got warm over the winter, some days they would hit it when it was only 45% out. I even marked several to time them so I knew they weren't over 3/4 mile away.

    Well it finely warmed up longer than 2 day's and I put out some hanging feeder's with a piece of comb. I put about 5 miles on the 4 Wheeler since 2:30 today traveling from ridge to ridge. After taking compass readings on were they were flying I transferred the headings to a map from Goggle Earth. So I had a good idea were they were. I went to the spot on my map and after listening and checking any tree of good size I was able to locate them. They are about 10' up coming out of a knot hole about 2". They are on my new neighbors property. (I just met them Friday evening they didn't know we were up here.) About a 1/2 mile away how the crow flies but about 1 1/2 driving by driveway's and road. They have given me permission to harvest them.I don't have any bees yet but I am getting 3 nukes started in my boxes by a fellow club member.

    I need to know if it is to soon to set up my Cleo Hogan Jr. trap? We don't have any trees in bloom yet but they may be tomorrow. We have lots of red buds and Oak getting ready to pop. I am located in the Nat. Forest so all we have is trees and more trees.

    Now I can start looking for the other 2 that have been hitting my feeders.

  2. #2
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    Hudson, WI USA
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    Default Re: Found my first Feral Hive Today

    It sounds like great fun. I bet you felt fantastic when you found them.

  3. #3
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    Default Re: Found my first Feral Hive Today

    Hoot Owl Lane Bees Go ahead and set the trap up and get them used to coming and going through the trap. Then wait until the colony has had a chance to build up from the Winter, and a good honey flow is in progress. Then introduce the unsealed brood and start taking starts from the tree.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: Found my first Feral Hive Today

    Cleo
    I don't have and drawn out frames or brood. Can I just put in some new foundation or should I just hang the empty box?
    I under stand you will be in our area next month!

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    Default Re: Found my first Feral Hive Today

    Adrian
    I was very happy. The first thing I did was Thank the LORD.
    Jim

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    Default Re: Found my first Feral Hive Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot Owl Lane Bees View Post
    should I just hang the empty box?
    No, go ahead and put frames with foundation in the trap. Let them draw it out as they want to.

    After sealing all the entrances, the guard bees will move to the front of the trap. They will not likely draw on the foundation until a good flow starts, and then without brood, they may want to use it for surplus storage rather than a brood nest. With foundation only, you don't have to worry about wax moths or small hive beetles.

    The secret to get good starts, with the right mix of bees, is to add some unsealed brood. This normally starts them using the trap as a brood chamber, which is what you want them to do.

    Could you partner with a local beekeeper for a frame of unsealed brood. You get the first start for finding the tree, they get the second start for supplying the unsealed brood. After this first start, you will have drawn comb, and unsealed brood for future trapping. A good tree will yield 3 - 5 starts per year.

    Yes, I will be in Springfield, on the 23d of April. Looking forward to it.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: Found my first Feral Hive Today

    Thank You
    We will get it set up tomorrow. I built several trap out units last year after contacting you about a hive at another neighbors that was 35' up. They didn't make it over the winter. I will try to post pictures.
    Jim

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