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  1. #1
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    Default How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    I heard them come in behind my apiary but saw no bees coming from my hives. It moved on and landed in a tree where I boxed them. My hives seem normal and I added supers already. I don't think they are mine.
    If I go in them tomorrow would I see queen cells if mine?
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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    If the queens in your hives are marked:
    Look at the queen in the swarm. If it is marked, and
    hen you inspect your hives you find one with an unmarked queen, OR
    One with no queen but some queen cells
    Then
    it's fairly likely, but not guaranteed that the swarm came from your apiary.
    BUT
    If your queens are unmarked, there's no way I know of to tell...(but I don't know much..maybe a more expert beek knows)

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Not marked. Do bees create swarm cells before swarming always?

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaBees View Post
    Not marked. Do bees create swarm cells before swarming always?
    Yep.
    Well almost always...anytime you say "always" or "never" you're just begging to be proved wrong.

    If your marked queen is suddenly gone, and 2/3 of your bees didn't go with her, she probably got superceded.
    Virgin queens are sometimes a challenge to find on crowded comb, bot b/c of their size and not being marked.

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Collect them and say... Merry Christmas to me!
    Check into your hives in about three days.

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Bees are unionized... If they came from one of your hives they would have little picket signs protesting the work conditions in one of your hives.

    If you were in the yard it is pretty obvious when a hive swarms... The tone of the hive changes and then you hear a rotor like sound for a few minutes. A traveling swarm doesn't make nearly as much noise as an emerging swarm from a hive.
    Always question Conventional Wisdom.

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Those look like mine. They must have flown to Novato because they changed the tolls on the Golden Gate Bridge to automatic payment only. The bees knew that the toll booth cameras could not read their license plates so that no toll would be required. I will come up tomorrow and get them back.

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    Those look like mine. ... I will come up tomorrow and get them back.
    lol

    wait, I think that's from the feral colony I've been keeping an eye on near Wildhorse valley... I'll come up tomorrow and collect them
    Brian

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    Default Re: How to tell if swarm from your own hive?

    Gonna have to charge a capture and nuc fee, hmmmmmmm, how about $75?

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