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  1. #1
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    Default thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    here is a couple pics of the swarm traps i made today.

    the first and ONLY trap i hung up (about the size of a nuc) made out of siding from a cutout we did....seems to have some attention the last couple days when i have driven by to check it out. NOT BAD !!!

    i decided that since we are going to all 8 frame mediums this year(actually 9 frame boxes because the plans i got from some yeehaw were wrong UGGGHHH) i went ahead and used some inventory of 10 frame deeps i had in the shop. pretty beat up anyways.

    here is what i did in more detail:

    -10 frame deep lang body
    -broke the wedge off of 2 frames and turned them sideways (as per Michael Bush talking about)
    -stapled wedges sideways on top bar and waxed them like TBH bars.
    -experimented with frame placements in the traps. (2 in the middle,2 in the entrance,2 in the rear)
    -cut one entrance per box. 2" round opening.
    -entrances in different locations in different boxes.
    -one box has some rot out so i didnt add an entrance.one box i left the bottom board and reduced the entrance to about 2" on one side.
    -a couple boxes have "swarm lure oil"
    -a couple boxes have pure "lemon grass oil"
    -each box has a couple chunks of old black comb ( no honey)
    -one box is a touch smaller than the deep bodies and is made from leftover siding removed from a cutout we did a couple weeks back. it has old comb attacked to it from that colony.

    hopefully it all goes well id love to get a descent amount of swarms this year. I plan an putting mostly swarms in TBH's. let them pull natural cells and see what happens.

    Sam Comfort mentioned to put swarm traps in old barn windows. well....here is out old barn. you bet your tail im gonna put a swarm trap in the window


    Never mind. photos wont upload. it happened last time i wanted to upload photos but cant figure it out.

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    couple of my bait boxes are 10 frame deeps. I caught one in it last year. Tom Seeleys article on this subject suggests entrances towards bottom. Some shade and facing south. Just guidelines from his research. What I followed and I had success. IMO, the 2 " is one the large side but it is probably splitting hairs. I would suggest a wire across, or even cris cross on an entrance like that to keep birds out unless the position of the frames accomplishes that. Sorry about the pics. I have a hard time with posting as well. Happy trapping
    Rick

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    I thought I'd give a picture a try. I hit "Reply," and a row of icons pops up. I then clicked on the 4th icon from the right (if you hover over it, it says 'Insert Image'). The Insert Image box then pops up and I then click on the 'From Computer' tab (top left) and then click on 'Select File' (bottom center) which then opens up my computer files where I keep my pictures. After I chose which pic I wanted, I clicked the 'Upload' button. Hope this helps you post your images! Here's an image of some of my swarm traps.
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    Last edited by mtndewluvr; 04-04-2013 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Moved picture down out of the words

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    Just curious as to why white?
    http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/...swarmtrap2.jpg
    First they have to see it and then they need to have the idea of messing with it. I figure if they don’t know it is there my odds of it staying are better.
    Wondering if I am better off using my drawn comb for splits or for the bait hives.
    So you are not using any frames?
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    Tommy...Glad you were able to get them loaded. I recently purchased a bunch of drawn comb last week and put a couple of those in my bait hives. I have 22 out so far this year. Swarm season is probably another week or two away for us. Have you had any luck yet?

    Wow, minz...those are nice! I assume you are talking about kids messing with your hives? You're right...if they don't see it, they don't bother them. How many swarms are you catching there in Clackamas? Before becoming obsessed with beekeeping I used to live in Oregon City and then in Troutdale...wondering what I'm missing.

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    I got two swarms last year by the airport, I have a plan for this year but as you can tell by my previous post I am almost thinking of using my black comb for splits rather than trapping. I love to build and just got a couple of sheets of T1-11 siding and lumber so I may build traps or I need a hundred deep frames and same for shallows I may set up for cutting frames (really boring).
    I just moved a couple of hives up out of Troutdale! I wonder if I will have to drive to the coast to collect the bees when the Columbia Gorge wind starts blowing! I am actually in Boring OR.
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    Minz, I really like the one with the artic camo!
    Dan Hayden 4 Years. 9 hives. Tx Free. USDA Zone 5b.

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    Why the funky cross bar instead of a frame or comb? You can't find a 19" piece of wood?

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    Why the funky cross bar instead of a frame or comb? You can't find a 19" piece of wood?

    hahaha the funky crossbar is because they always fall out. i also dropped a couple pieces of old black comb in as well as some lemongrass oil.

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    Tommy - I agree with odfrank. You mention that you'll be going to 8 (9) frame mediums. Why not at least be hanging medium frames in your boxes (best with drawn comb, but foundation or foundationless frames will work nice too)? This way, after you catch a swarm, you can simply pull them out of the trap and place them in your boxes. While it's nice to be able to throw the black comb on the bottom of the box (the smell helps), even better would be to at least rubber-band that comb into medium frames and hang them that way in the box. If a swarm does move in, they will attach the comb to the frame and be able to use it for brood/honey. I am only putting in a couple of frames in my bait hives. I slide them all the way one direction and hammer a 1" brad at each end of the frame closest to the middle (leaving 1/2" sticking up) so the frames lock in place and don't slide and fall down...you might give that a try.

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    Default Re: thoughts on my swarm traps ?

    i totally agree buddy .

    this is the only trap that i got a picture of the inside before closing it up. the rest have medium frames. and as while i said i was going with an all medium 8 frame operation...i have since gone with 10 frame and deep brood boxes. im always an undecided all over the place kinda guy :P

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