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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Denis Allan View Post
    ThanksFeltze.

    I'm fairly able at the word working.

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  2. #22
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    I can appreciate that bluegrass.. the next line in the comment was that I have to get my head wrapped around the forces that act on the corner of the hives,, not that I was able or not.. but thank you for pointing that out..

    Friendly place around here isn't it.........

  3. #23
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Denis Allan View Post
    Friendly place around here isn't it.........
    Denis, you may be misinterpreting Bluegrass's comment. Note that the word you used was "word" instead of the "wood" that you probably intended to use.
    Quote Originally Posted by Denis Allan View Post
    I'm fairly able at the word working,
    I suspect that Bluegrass was making a comment about some Beesource members that do more talking than woodworking. I did not interpret Bluegrass's comment as necessarily pertaining to you.

    It is difficult to see facial expressions and tone of voice on Beesource. That's why smileys were invented!

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  4. #24
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    There are a few grouches and dingbats, but this is really a good discussion board.

    I'll let you in on a dirty little secret -- ANY wood glue is stronger than the wood, including hide glue (gelatin) if it stays dry. However, wood is not static, it changes size and shape with rather amazing power as the water content changes, and even if the glue is strong enough, the wood isn't and will simply fracture off the glue.

    This is why plywood is a poor exterior material unless well protected from water by paint or siding. Soak it in water from a rainstorm and then bake it in the sun and the wood, which is highly stressed in the first place from being peeled off a log and flattened, will simply rip apart at the glue, leaving you with separate plies no longer attached to each other. Doesn't matter what the glue is, the wood fails.

    Box joints don't need glue, although it keeps water out and thus extends the life somewhat. No other joint will last as long without glue, and some are simply not reliable if not glued.

    Whatever you use, make sure it will handle normal, or perhaps somewhat more than normal, stresses in beekeeping. Having a box full of cranky bees go "crunch" and come apart, smashing a pile of bees isn't going to be fun.

    Peter

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    If I miss understood the comment, I do apologise for that. .and Yes. I now see word vs. .wood. I'd say I'm better with wood then words..
    Sorry Bluegrass for the bit..

    Denis

  6. #26
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    IMO, anything more than a lap joint with glue and staples is overkill. Great if you wanna, but again....... overkill for bee boxes.....
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  7. #27
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    I am not clear on how to make a box with a lap joint.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Anyone use a Box Miter Joint for building supers...

    Check this out!
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Frame-Pre...-/221171373372

    I found several mitered joint hives for sale on the wweb.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

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