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    How long does the queen have to make matting flights if the weather is bad? How old is she when its to late for her if she doesnt mate? What happens to her does she turn into a drone layer?
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    Default Re: Mating Flights

    The literature reports that after 6 days mating is questionable. Just one more thing to take with salt. Have had queens socked in by weather for more than 2 weeks that performed well.

    Will get another sample soon. A supersedure queen has been socked in by cold for more than 2 weeks already. We'll see how she does.

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    I have fat virgin queen bees. Does that make her unable to fly to mate? I mean is she
    able to fly when her body that big? Sometimes I think her wings just too short
    to carry all her weight with that fat body. Not even sure if she could fly or not.
    Wonder if there is a way to test if she can fly or not.

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    grab her and throw her in the air. See if she flys. Sounds like a fine test to me.

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    A queen starts taking orientation flights about 5 days from emergence, weather permitting.
    The earliest a queen will take a mating flight is around 7 or 8 days from emergence.
    I have had queens mate as late as 4 weeks from emergence but once you get over 3 weeks there is a good chance your queen will fail to mate and will become a drone layer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMAC View Post
    grab her and throw her in the air. See if she flys. Sounds like a fine test to me.
    I'm not gonna comment, just...

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    21 days is pushing it...
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    Haa, ha!!! After 3 weeks I will just grab her and she if she can fly. Hummm, after that not sure
    where she will be landed at should she fly, eh.

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    Well I have watched mated laying queens fly, so I wouldn't worry about a fat virgin. She shouldn't have problems making mating flights.

    Good test though eh

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    How do you know she isn't already mated? She is fat right?
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    Ace have you ever seen virgin queens?

    I have seen hundreds of fat virgins that dont look like they should be able to fly.

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    No, that is why I was wondering how you tell.
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    Default Re: Mating Flights

    BMAC, this is my first time at queen rearing. I got the
    big fat juicy supercedure type queens. So do they fly
    o.k. for the mating? I though how can they carry their
    big fat body with a pairs of small wing? Can they?

    Guess we'll have to see if there are any eggs at the end of this month.

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    If bumblebees can fly, virgin queens can surely fly even if they are carrying a bit of weight around the midriff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beepro View Post
    BMAC, this is my first time at queen rearing. I got the
    big fat juicy supercedure type queens. So do they fly
    o.k. for the mating? I though how can they carry their
    big fat body with a pairs of small wing? Can they?

    Guess we'll have to see if there are any eggs at the end of this month.
    Mated fat queens fly. So when large queens fly they are not very fast but they can fly.

    I would question quality of supercedure queens less its just to replace a very old queen. I give virgins a solid 4 weeks before looking to see if they are mated/accepted. 3 weeks just isnt long enough alot of times.

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    Default Re: Mating Flights

    Some queens which are clipped can get a fair distance as well if you have only taken a small sliver off the tip of the wing.

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    Default Re: Mating Flights

    Jonathan nailed it. Analysis of bumble bees conclude they should not be able to fly but yet they do. It doesn't have to be pretty but once they get up and going they should be alright.

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    Default Re: Mating Flights

    Quote Originally Posted by sfisher View Post
    How long does the queen have to make matting flights if the weather is bad? How old is she when its to late for her if she doesnt mate? What happens to her does she turn into a drone layer?
    Hi Steve,

    I made nucs at the end of Feb in SC this year, used danish buckfast cells, and just checked the first 8 and they all took but are extremly light. I won't go through the rest until I have syrup in hand. We sure did have plenty of lousy weather between then and now. I'm seeing capped brood so they must have been mated a while now.

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