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    Default Best materials for smoker fuel

    I was even debating on whether or not to use a smoker with my top bar hive, but I live in Florida and the feral bees I come across tend to be a tad hot, if not completely just wanting to completely wipe me off the face of the planet. (and, oh my, may even be Africanized). Yes, I know I could re-queen, etc, but I have to work with them a bit to even undergo that operation, even if I choose to re-queen. To be honest, I'm quite fascinated with their spunk. I know they are survivors.

    So, what is the best, cheapest, most readily available material to use in smokers that would tend to be on the "healthier" side for the bees, if that's even possible?

    Pine needles?

    Oak leaves ?

    Oak sticks?

    Hemp ? (I don't have any, feds - chill out)

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Chemical free burlap cloth. Be careful of seed sacks that might be contaminated with chemicals..

    Cow patties.

    Cedar chips.

    Rags from wiping up honey.

    Corn cobs.

    Wood pellets.

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    Pine needles - free, easy to light, easy to keep lit, and not as stinky as some other things. And if you get hard up you can buy a bale for $4 at the garden center. usually.
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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Pine needles.

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Pine shavings. Cheap and easy to find.
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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Pine needles have my vote. I also have some cotton and wood pellets I bought from the bee supply that I add on top of pine needles which cause the smoker to burn longer without having to open it up and refuel.
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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    I use the paper mache trays that are used to separate soft fruit. Makes a mild smoke.

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    I use chunks of wood left over from making boxes.

    Really just avoid anything with any artificial substance on it or in it. Things like paint, pesticide, wood preservatives. Bees have a very limited lifespan. You're the one that lives longer, breathing that stuff. The other thing to consider is what gets in the wax.
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    Juniper tree bark works great out here in Western Colorado, I collect it when I go hiking.
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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Spent barley grain from brewing beer. Dry it out. Burns a long time. Pine needles, Leyland Cypress tree debri.

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    Straw.
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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Quote Originally Posted by virginiawolf View Post
    Spent barley grain from brewing beer. Dry it out. Burns a long time
    I love the versatility of spent grains!

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Thanks so much for everyone's input on this. I'm stoked about the pine needles being viable (no pun intended).

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Corn cobs? I have read several places that corn cobs are poison to bees??
    Southern pine needles are the best!

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    I was just quoting from the text I have gathered since my wife and I decided to start bee keeping. Corn cobs are noted as a smoker fuel often. s a kid, we used to collect them out of the fields after the combine did it's thing and my mother used them to make corn cob jelly. The redder the cob the sweeter the jelly. Lots of sugars in a corn cob. Seems like it would be a good fuel. The best fuel is probably the one you have around you. There are places where pine needles may not be available. We have plenty here in the south! :-)

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Oak pellets for wood stoves. Better smelling than pine needles (which work good but definitely have a stench to them). A couple of weekends ago I did a cutout in a house being rehabbed. It was more than I expected and for a newbee I was their from 10am until 7:40pm. I lit a wad of mowed grass and stuff it in the smoker...got it burning good....filled about half way up with pellets and got that smoking good...finished filling up with pellets and capped it with wadded up green grass/weeds. I did not have to use much smoke during the cutout, just a little bit off and on...every now and then I'd pump the bellows a couple of times for the heck of it. The smoker stayed lit for at least 9-1/2 hours! Pellets are very good once you figure them out.

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    Default Re: Best materials for smoker fuel

    Are oak pellets the same as "heat pellets"? If so, Lowes had 40#(?) bags for under $5. Not as cheap as pine needles (i.e., free), but maybe low-cost option if one can't get pine needles?

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    I'm thinking there are more threads on this topic than any other!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snl View Post
    I'm thinking there are more threads on this topic than any other!
    I have 'Search-Button-Itis'. I'm guilty as charged. (embarrassed).

    But such a great thread, even if it's repeated info.

    But you know what? I thought since this is a treatment-free forum, I didn't know if I was going catch hell for considering smoking my hive. I guess smoking is pretty much an accepted practice across all philosophies.

    I'll post a video shortly of the type of bees I'm contending with here in my backyard hive. My wife pretty much demanded I invest in a smoker, and a better suit, both of which are being shipped to my house as we speak.

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    .

    Look at all the blood-thirsty bees orbiting my head during this routine inspection. It becomes anything but routine, however, when they are this kamikaze-like. It makes me wonder if the whole hive was sipping a bunch of sake before they started hammering me. I bet hundreds of them die during an inspection when they are this mean.

    And CPS, don't worry. My child is completely safe behind a screened-in patio. Don't send a SWAT team, please.


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