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  1. #1
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    Default Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    Reviewing the directions for the new hive it suggest Resin Glue. Could you use a general wood glue found at the local Lowe's or Home Depot instead of Resin Glue from the manufacturer?

    How about Gorilla Wood Glue? Already have some of that and could use up the bottle completing these 2 hives.

    Any suggestions or comments please let me know?

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    Titebond glue is what I use with all my woodworking projects . Any good glue should do you a good job though as long as the joints are clean and tight fitting. Are you also planning on screwing , nailing or stapling the joints? Doing so will keep things tight together and give you a stronger joint.

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    titebond II and titebond III are the ones most folks here use. There is plenty of argument for which is best. TBII is water resistant, while TBIII is waterproof. I like that the TBII is thicker, so it does run and drip as much as the TBIII. since my hives are eitehr painted or clear coat finished, the wood/glue won't be exposed to much water, so i think either will work just fine. Of course, the use of mechanical fasteners (nails, staples, screws...) is recommended.

    The original gorilla glue is kinda nice because ot foams/expands to fill any imprefections in the joints. one downside, is that it can expand past the wood surface and not look "pretty" if that matters to you. The glue is also waterproof.

    I have not used the gorilla glue wood glue. Their website claims it is water resistant. I suspect it is pretty similar in efficacy to the TBII.

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    > Could you use a general wood glue found at the local Lowe's or Home Depot instead of Resin Glue from the manufacturer?

    Lowes and HD both carry all the flavors of Titebond and Gorilla glue commonly used. "General wood glue" might include a product like Elmers Interior Wood Glue, which is really not a good choice for use in hives that are outdoors. Choose a type 2 or type 3 glue, or a poly glue like Gorilla Glue.

    Use up the existing bottle of Gorilla Glue first. Titebond II is a very good glue choice at an affordable price. Locally it sells for half the price of Titebond III in gallon jugs. Unless your hives are submerged in water TBIII has no advantage over TBII.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    Gorilla glue works fine, it's al I've ever used. I have a few tubes of liquid nail sitting on the shelf and may try using it to see how it works out.
    "Of all God's creatures, only the honeybee improves its environment and preys on no other species."--Haydon Brown

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    I always favored the Titebond waterproof due to the low VOC's (fumes). I had a beebud that used liquid nail once. The bees didn't like the smell and bugged out.

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    I use tightbond III ,good stuff.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Hive Assembly Question? What Type of glue works and or what can be substituted ?

    There is little practical difference between TB II and TBIII for water resistance.
    The following is copied from titebond's website:

    What is the difference between the ANSI/HPVA Type I and Type II water-resistance specification?

    Both of these tests are conducted using 6” by 6” birch laminates glued together to make three-ply plywood. The test for Type I is clearly more stringent than Type II, and involves boiling the glue bonds and testing the specimens while they are wet.

    Type I testing involves cutting the 6" by 6" assemblies into 1" by 3" specimens, boiling them for 4 hours, then baking the specimens in a 145F oven for 20 hours. They are boiled for an additional 4 hours, then immediately cooled using running water. The specimens are sheared while wet, and the bonds must pass certain strength and wood failure requirements to pass the Type I specification.

    Type II testing involves cutting the 6" by 6" assemblies into 2" by 5" specimens, soaking them for 4 hours, then baking the specimens in a 120F oven for 19 hours. This is repeated for a total of three cycles, and the bonds must not delaminate to pass the Type II specification.

    So unless you are going to put your finished boxes into boiling(real hot) wax/rosin tank, there is no reason not to just use the cheaper TBII.

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