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  1. #1
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    Default Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    With all the intelligence and woodworking skills in the world, I wonder why nobody has designed a langstroth hive where the brood boxes are like bottomless drawers in a filing cabinet, so you can examine brood without removing supers? It just seems so obvious to me, although I realize the big problem would be the bees propolising the drawers.

    So if they would propolise or build burr comb in the space between the drawers and the cabinet, why not just make a metal frame with drawer slides without an outer cabinet? The frame would be outside the hive. Obviously you would want very little space between drawers, but if they got stuck together, why couldn't you pop them loose just like you do the boxes?

    It would be such a huge time saver and back saver, make inspections quick and easy, and I suspect would be much less disruptive to the hive than tearing it apart every couple of weeks.

    What am I missing that has kept this from working or being invented?

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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    the biggest fear I would have would be rolling the queen by pulling the drawer out....my luck I would kill her everytime I checked them!

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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    I doubt you would be able to open the drawer after a week because of propolise and wax, we have a hard enough time cracking the boxes of some of these hives.
    And cost,
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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    Quote Originally Posted by thenance007 View Post
    why not just make a metal frame with drawer slides without an outer cabinet?
    An company from Israel was advertising a set up just like this in the bee journals about 10 years ago. These were 4-way pallets where you could access each brood chamber separately while leaving the supers in position. Appears the idea was not marketable.

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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    Cost, I work as a general contrator and often work with a custom cabinet company (I will actually be hanging cabinets for them tomorrow). By time you built the cabinet, draws, and installed the draw slides your cost would be four or five time the cost of a hive.

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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    I've seen pictures of old hives that were like this.

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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    I would think it would get top heavy during a flow and tilt forward when you pull out the honey storage drawers unless you have a heavy base or counter balance.
    "Of all God's creatures, only the honeybee improves its environment and preys on no other species."--Haydon Brown

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    Default Re: Why not a file cabinet type hive with brood box drawers?

    The AZ hives open at the rear so the frames can be pulled out easily both from the brood chamber or from the honey super above. They are magnificent examples of workmanship with a price that will make your eyes water. Do a search for "AZ Hive" on this forum for discussion, photos and videos.

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