Re: Treatment Free Commercial Beekeepers?
I suppose you woudl have to be familiar with Walts writings. In his book Nectar Management. Walt takes great care to make a case that bees will not draw foundation pre swarm period (Late winter / Early spring). He actually makes the case that wax makers are not present in the early colony and this is part of the reason for a three week delay between swarm cut off and honey foraging in the spring.
Now another beekeepers seems to be claiming that plentiful Wax makers during this period are key to his methods. again doing something Walt claims is not done.
So far I have received one link to an additional article by Walt where he explains an exception to the no wax maker situation in a second year colony that finishes their first season without completing there comb building.
Not only that but I am sure there is no reason to think that hives that are 3 times plus the strength of a typical colony would have anything to do with being able to operate treatment free.
This is a beekeeper that supposedly is successfully operating treatment free and with a method that appears to be significantly different as well as making a claim that runs directly counter to claims made by Walt in his book. In fact it seems he thinks that specific difference is significant. As far as I know Walt has never altered his claims concerning early season wax makers in the colony.
I don't think you are as confused as you seem to want to pretend you are. I think you want to be antagonistic. you did not need to respond to my question given you had nothing to offer in the way of an answer. that you failed to see any importance in my question is your lack of knowledge not mine. If you do not like my bluntness in responding to your rude behavior, then don't speak to me. Your ignorance does not make my question irrelevant. It is relevant for reasons you don't seem to know anything about. That is something that is common.
It is a bit surprising to me that a person can post a video and a statement on a thread about treatment free beekeeping that includes a treatment free beekeeper. Then a direct question can be asked about how he does it. included in the answer to that question is the specific point that early Wax Makers are assured. Yet neither of you can make the connection about how early wax makers in the colony is relevant to the conversation. and that you seem to know little to nothing about the issues of early wax makers. And somehow this makes me the one that does not know what they are doing. Okay you enjoy that. I don't care. I know that Wax makers in the early build up of the colony could make a significant difference in how that colony functions. And I also understand in fair detail exactly why. At least according to Walt. And now there is a treatment free beekeeper that is making the claim that this very specific and significant issue is at least one of the reasons for his success at being treatment free. There may also be a claim in there that this situation of wax makers can be manged. altered manipulated or stimulated. In the link provided Walt makes no such claims. he makes a case for a specific temporary exception to the no wax maker situation. That is not what I am looking for and I don't believe that is what is being claimed in the comments above. I am hearing that Tim says an abundance of wax makers in late winter early spring is critical to his methods of keeping bees treatment free.
Now please explain to me how that entire conversation and my question are in fact not relevant to the topic of keeping bees successfully with treatment free methods. Or do you just not know what you are talking about. Just becasue you don't know what is being talked about does not mean it is off topic.
Last edited by Daniel Y; 04-10-2013 at 06:14 AM.
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