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    Default US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    only in wildlife refuges. I guess for the rest of the wildlife and bees on 99% of US land, its business as usual.

    The U.S. government is creating a safe place for bees on national wildlife refuges by phasing out the use of genetically modified crops and an agricultural pesticide implicated in the mass die-off of pollinators.

    The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s National Wildlife Refuge System manages 150 million acres across the country. By January 2016, the agency will ban the use of neonicotinoids, widely used nerve poisons that a growing number of scientific studies have shown are harmful to bees, birds, mammals, and fish. Neonicotinoids, also called neonics, can be sprayed on crops, but most often the seeds are coated with the pesticide so that the poison spreads throughout every part of the plant as it grows, including the pollen and nectar that pollinators like bees and butterflies eat.
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    http://news.yahoo.com/u-bans-gmos-be...193150944.html

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    That's good news.

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Time to move my hive to a wildlife refuge lol

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Just FYI - I am fairly certain that honey bees (being a European species) are not allowed to be kept on NWR or other properties owned by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service due to being non-native species. But you sure can stack them along the fence line and just like birds they are free to use the refuge for forage.

    There are some nice prairies on some of these lands.
    Started 9/13, building slowly, now @ 7 Lang hives + 4 nucs, and treatment style not decided yet

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    I think they're just changing pesticides on the flowers at the visitor's center.
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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    lucky for me they r on the fence line alrdy lol

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    This governmental action is about as silly as it gets.

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    At least somebody, in Government, has recognized that GMO crops are bad. Not being in the discussion phase, and actually "doing" something about it is a great first step!

    Notice I said "First" step ...

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Quote Originally Posted by cg3 View Post
    I think they're just changing pesticides on the flowers at the visitor's center.
    Exactly. How many acres of National Wildlife Refuge land are planted with corn or soybeans?

    Reminds me of when the city of Boulder, Colorado banned fracking within the city limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seapro220 View Post
    At least somebody, in Government, has recognized that GMO crops are bad. Not being in the discussion phase, and actually "doing" something about it is a great first step!

    Notice I said "First" step ...
    Are you saying that all GMO crops are bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabber86 View Post
    Exactly. How many acres of National Wildlife Refuge land are planted with corn or soybeans?

    Reminds me of when the city of Boulder, Colorado banned fracking within the city limits.


    I was surprised the number wasn't larger but, it looks like about 44,000 acres of NWR are farmed nationwide. http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/us-...nt?oid=3653745

    It will probably make it harder to find farmers willing to rent the land. And/or the rent they are willing to pay will go down. It makes it a hassel to farm one way on your own land and another way on rented ground.

    The comments about creating things like superweeds are pure bunk! Pests have been developing pesticide resistance ever since the first pesticides were used. One of the things that doomed DDT was the fact that many pest had developed resistance due to its' overuse.

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    genetically modified crops and an agricultural pesticide implicated in the mass die-off of pollinators.
    Quote Originally Posted by seapro220 View Post
    At least somebody, in Government, has recognized that GMO crops are bad.
    GMOs have never been linked to mass die off of pollinators. Not to mention, there is no "mass die off of pollinators." GMOs have never been linked to any harm whatsoever. To ban them would be a triumph of superstition over science. Not that that is anything new.

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Quote Originally Posted by peterloringborst View Post
    GMOs have never been linked to mass die off of pollinators. Not to mention, there is no "mass die off of pollinators." GMOs have never been linked to any harm whatsoever. To ban them would be a triumph of superstition over science. Not that that is anything new.

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Quote Originally Posted by seapro220 View Post
    At least somebody, in Government, has recognized that GMO crops are bad. Not being in the discussion phase, and actually "doing" something about it is a great first step!

    Notice I said "First" step ...
    Feel free to tell us why GMO crops are "bad".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWall View Post
    I was surprised the number wasn't larger but, it looks like about 44,000 acres of NWR are farmed nationwide. http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/us-...nt?oid=3653745

    Tom
    From the article:

    Research on GMCs is murky. Some studies have suggested GMCs cause cancer in rats and might alter human DNA, but those studies have been widely discredited.

    Really? Genetically modified crops (GMC) cause cancer? That's news to me.
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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Common sense on GMOs

    Labeling: Since practically all food has been genetically altered from nature, if you wanted labeling I suppose you could demand it, but then it should be for all such foods. Perhaps there could be two different designations: GMO-Agriculture GMO-Laboratory.

    Monopolies are generally bad things in a free market. To the extent that the production of GMOs are a monopoly, the government should do all it can to spread the baseline of this industry. (My favorite monopoly joke ever, told by Stephen Wright: “I think it’s wrong that the game Monopoly is sold by only one company”)

    If your objection to GMOs is the morality of selling non-prerennial seed stocks, then focus on that. If your objection to GMOs is the monopolistic conduct of agribusiness, then focus on that. But to paint the entire concept of GMO with these particular issues is to blind yourself to the underlying truth of what humans have been doing — and will continue to do — to nature so that it best serves our survival. That’s what all organisms do when they can, or would do, if they could. Those that didn’t, have gone extinct.
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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    It has been my experience that the people that are opposed to GMO crops are also the same people that have never seeded ANY crops.

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Quote Originally Posted by Haraga View Post
    It has been my experience that the people that are opposed to GMO crops are also the same people that have never seeded ANY crops.
    This is what I find the most irritating about the extremes in the green movement. They form their opinions based on emotion, and refuse to even consider any evidence that is contrary to their view. They will accept hands down very poor research as long as it supports their view and reject anything that is contrary to their view. The percentage of our population that has even a rudimentary knowledge of agriculture, and what it takes to produce our food supply is getting very small.
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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Burrup View Post
    This is what I find the most irritating about the extremes in the green movement. They form their opinions based on emotion, and refuse to even consider any evidence that is contrary to their view. They will accept hands down very poor research as long as it supports their view and reject anything that is contrary to their view. The percentage of our population that has even a rudimentary knowledge of agriculture, and what it takes to produce our food supply is getting very small.
    Dave
    You hit the nail on the head. Don't forget the Hollywood stars if they say GMO's are bad their will be a lot climb onto that bandwagon too. So many now days cannot think for themselves or even be willing to read any creatable research to make and informed opinion. Those type of people are just like sheep and Chicken Little "the sky is falling"

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    Default Re: US to ban GMO s and Neonicotinoids

    Well, it's seems to be human nature to worry about something. If you want a good read, though, try

    What Should We Be Worried About?: Real Scenarios That Keep Scientists Up at Night
    by John Brockman

    http://www.amazon.com/What-Should-Wo...6tag%3Dedgeorg

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