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    Default handles on the boxes????

    I am curious is there any reason you can't put sturdy handles on the boxes to make the lifting more secure? Those carved out handles don't seem like you can get a good grip on them to move them around when necessary ...just asking.

    Kind regards, Cheryl

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    No reason at all. If they're your boxes, do it whichever way you prefer.

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    I put a 1"x 2" board across the front and back(with glue and screws) of my boxes,the bees don't care.

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    I make all my own equipment, and if it wasn't for being able to put boxes right up next to each other tightly, either for storage or in the beeyard, I would attach handles to the outside of the boxes instead of cutting them into the box like I do. It's just a little inconvenient having the handles stick out for what I want to do in my operation. John

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Quote Originally Posted by jmgi View Post
    I make all my own equipment, and if it wasn't for being able to put boxes right up next to each other tightly, either for storage or in the beeyard, I would attach handles to the outside of the boxes instead of cutting them into the box like I do. It's just a little inconvenient having the handles stick out for what I want to do in my operation. John
    you could just stagger them that way one is higher on one side and the other is lower that way if u have to store them the would fit together pretty nicely
    that the way i do it

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    Old man insomnia and a full moon.

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Gotcha.
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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    I've been enjoying some of the old out-of-copyright bee books, and in one (and I can't remember which, except that it was a well-known beekeeper of the 19th or early 20th century) the author said that all his boxes had cleats running all the way across. His reasoning had to do with what in his mind was the proper way to pick up boxes-- with the cleats resting on the forearms and the hands on the far corners, so that the box was close to the body and under control.

    I don't know if there's anything to this, but he was fairly adamant about this being the only proper way to lift a box.

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Every box I own.


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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    The type of handles Odfrank has on his boxes are great IF you don't need to stack them side by side or end to end. The slope cut top and bottom (I use 30 degrees) works both to shed water and to make them easy to pick up, and I leave a small flat on the bottom, more comfortable.

    However, handles or cleats take up more room when you are loading hundreds of hives onto a truck. If you don't plan to stack them that close, by all means use cleats or handles, they are MUCH nicer to pick up.

    I use scrap for mine, so they vary in length from about six to about eight inches long, I don't make them full width. No reason not to, but most of my scrap isn't that long. Put them low enough for a telescoping cover to fully seat if they are the top box and you use telescoping covers.

    Peter

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    Every box I own.

    Are those Mann Lake boxes?

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Well made deeply scalloped hand holds work great. Hardware handles screwed into your boxes are fine, but you won't be able to stack boxes close together when you want to. But, go for it. They're your boxes.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    odfrank - good workmanship is a thing of beauty and those handles are beauties! I'd go with those for sure.

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Quote Originally Posted by rail View Post
    Are those Mann Lake boxes?
    Yes, those are. These are homemade jumbo depth, dado joints. Same handles:

    And these are cut comb depth, for carrying up and down to the hives on my deck, same specs:

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    Thank you everyone ...handles it is.....I have only just gotten my first hive...hundreds on a truck probably not.....:>)....I love the angle on those wooden handles...

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    As far as I do understand, for non-commercial beekeepers, the advantage of not having real handles is that one could put box on the side during the inspection. The Odfrank design seems to me very good because one still could put the box on the front side and at the same time use handles when necessary.
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: handles on the boxes????

    I usually stack them, but if I stand them up I sometimes lean them against something, like another hive. Section shallows with a cleat are likely to get knocked over. Mediums and deeps are more stable. The cleat allows me to pick up boxes with one hand.

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    Getting ready for work? You're up early.
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