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  1. #1
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    Dec 2012
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    Default my first trap out/cutout need suggestions

    Here is a pic of where they are. They are in between the fireplace and stuckoed soffit just under the rain gutter. there is about 1/2 inch gap between the soffit and fireplace. Owner says they have been there maybe a year. I think I can manage a trap out, which will leave honey and comb inside somewhere. With a cut out I have to go through concrete stucko to get into the soffit if they are not there they maybe in the attic, (doesn't look like there is an attic unless there is a whole extending into the attic, or the fireplace, or maybe they made a home down the block. The roof is a flat lanai roof extending past a hip roof. Oh yeah I'm brand new to all of this and don't really have the contstruction knowledge to do a cut out.

    Nathan

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    Here is a closer view:


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    and the long distance view, in the corner by the fireplace:

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  2. #2
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    Default Re: my first trap out/cutout need suggestions

    the entrance is about 4" tall from the edge of the soffit up to the rain gutter, but it's hard to see because of the shadow. I got up pretty close and was not attacked by the bees, and I did not notice them bringing in any pollen like my bees at home have been doing.

  3. #3
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    Default Re: my first trap out/cutout need suggestions

    Ok nathan, listen to my words of wisdom as I do this type of work.... get another beekeeper who knows a thing or two about construction to assist you. Ideally, one with a bee vac and all the tools necessary to do a proper cut out.
    You will have one ticked off customer when there is honey dripping from the soffits if you decide to perform a trap out.

  4. #4
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    Crenshaw County, Alabama
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    Default Re: my first trap out/cutout need suggestions

    Mr. Beeman, I don't really do this kind of work but I thought the idea was that once you had the bees out of the cavity and into the trap-out box that you remove the funnel and let them rob the honey out of the original cavity. I can see where beetles might cause a problem for nathan-D since he is deep inside shb territory but in your locale I wouldn't think that would be a worry for you (very low shb numbers). Is there another reason that the honey would be dripping from the soffit? I'm seriously curious about this.

    Thanks,
    Ed

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    Pinellass County, Florida
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    Default Re: my first trap out/cutout need suggestions

    Yes yes yes you can't trap them out
    When its finished cut a large whole to the entrance
    And put some lemon grass oil,honey be healthy in a feeder
    Or some honey near the entrance,this will start the robbing
    Faster leave it open for 4 days and you should be good
    I watch my bees clean a full med Souper in less than two days

    Trapout work well just besure every thing is closed up
    Except for the hole your trap is set on
    Day 2 put in egg/larva frame and don't open it for a week
    If it becomes over crowded add a second or take that one home
    And repeat including the egg/larva but careful if you do this
    Be sure there is a good amount of bees before you add the e/l frame
    the bees really flush the first week or two then it slows

    Good luck
    Be sure to,post your results

  6. #6
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    Default Re: my first trap out/cutout need suggestions

    I spoke with the owner and he is not opposed to me cutting into the stucco soffit or removing facia, he can replace that himself. I also informed him that the bees might not be there and could be further in the attic but I don't think so. I'd prefer to get the queen and the comb rather than trap out, the owner is most concerned about leaking rotting honey. If the bees will rob it out then the trap out sounds like a better idea, I do have a frame of eggs, larvae, and capped brood to put in a trap.

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