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    Default Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    This information is from Kim Flottum's Catch the Buzz email newsletter, or also available here:
    http://home.ezezine.com/1636/1636-20...0.archive.html

    Five individuals and two domestic honey-processing companies have been charged with federal crimes in connection with a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)-led investigation surrounding illegal importations of honey from China.

    The charges assert that the Chinese-origin honey was misdeclared as other commodities upon importation into the United States and transshipped through other countries to evade anti-dumping duties. Altogether, the seven defendants allegedly evaded anti-dumping duties totaling more than $180 million.

    The charges represent the second phase of an investigation led by HSI. In June 2011, an HSI undercover special agent assumed the role of the director of procurement at Honey Holding I Ltd., which by then was cooperating with the investigation.


    Honey Holding, doing business as Honey Solutions, of Baytown, Texas, and Groeb Farms Inc., of Onsted, Mich. – two of the nation's largest honey suppliers – have both entered into deferred prosecution agreements with the government. Honey Holding has agreed to pay $1 million and Groeb Farms has agreed to pay $2 million in fines. Both companies have also agreed to implement corporate compliance programs as part of their respective agreements.
    This is not just some anonymous foreign importer. The illegal honey was disguised by using a US honey packer, Groeb Farms. Here is info about Groeb Farms from the National Honey Board website:

    Groeb Farms, Inc. buys Honey from 42 states and around the world, with capacity for over 80 million pounds of Honey at its processing facilities in Belleview, Florida, Onsted, Michigan, and Colton, California. Groeb Farms, Inc. is the #1 Industrial & Foodservice Honey packers. Groeb Farms has differentiated itself from other Honey packers. Serving both the Industrial, Foodservice and Retail markets with products such as Honey, Peanut Butter, Mustard, Molasses & Vinegar, thus making Groeb Farms your “One-Stop-Shop” supplier.
    http://www.honeylocator.com/locator/...oeb-farms-inc/

    Here's what Groeb says on their own website:
    Our efforts are focused on food quality, safety, and sustainability while providing the value and service all customers should demand. We serve the U.S. consumer through our supply of pure honey to further manufacturers and directly with Control Label and our Company Brands of Groeb Farms and Miller’s. This is a responsibility we take seriously. The Groeb Farms production facilities operate in strict compliance with risk-based quality control procedures and are certified by BRC, the definitive certifying body for global food safety.

    http://www.groebfarms.com/
    Here is the other culprit identified by name

    Honey Solutions is one of the largest dedicated industrial honey suppliers in the United States. Honey Solutions provides over 30,000,000 pounds of industrial honey per year from coast to coast to America’s most premier bakeries and food processors.Our mission is to service the approximate 200 million pounds per year ingredient and food service segment of the US honey industry. Our nationally branded and specialty foods customers value our quality, continuity of supply, timeliness of supply and price competitiveness in the industry. Our advanced honey lab and Quality Assurance provides AIB Superior Certified production while maintaining low- cost supplier status for our customers.
    http://www.honeysolutions.com/en/about.cfm
    Between them, they claim to be handling 110 million pounds of honey a year! Wishful thinking perhaps, but it would be nice to see reputable US buyers refuse to do business with these no-good-niks and have them go out of business.
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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Wishful thinking...indeed.

    It appears we have fully entered the era of Too Big To Fail...and Too Big To Prosecute. Pay to play baby...To sum it up, we "saved" $180 million in anti-dumping duties...got caught...we're sorry now, we'll pay $3 million in fines ...and of course, we're sorry, and we'll implement some more Corporate Responsibility and Compliance...
    Not bad...
    Oh...but it says that ..." they have both entered into deferred prosecution agreements with the government".
    Alright then, all is good. We're covered. We're safe now...

    Plus, all that elegant and sophisticated verbiage..."facilities operate in strict compliance with risk-based quality control procedures and are certified by BRC, the definitive certifying body for global food safety"....or..."advanced honey lab and Quality Assurance provides AIB Superior Certified production"...of course, because after all, "This is a responsibility we take seriously". No kidding.

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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Excellent post apis maximus

    If these were individuals and not corporations ,they would be thrown in jail ..the fines are a slap on the wrist and the companies get to play the same game down the road ...this funny honey ain't going away forever or quickly.....


    More and better info here http://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/pr/c...pr0220_02.html
    Last edited by irwin harlton; 02-21-2013 at 03:59 PM. Reason: info added

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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Thank you Rader. The soap opera continues.....


    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Just bus. as usual right? Come and work and live in Crapifornia for a few years, and you'll see this kind of garbage happening all the time. I wish we still had an eye for an eye going on these days....I'm just saying.
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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Pffft... Coming from China, it's probably fake.. They fake eggs, grapes, walnuts and a pile of other things. Wouldn't surprise me.

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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Quote Originally Posted by irwin harlton View Post
    If these were individuals and not corporations ,they would be thrown in jail ..
    Errr...Corporations are individuals...oh yeah...only when they want to be. Individuals when they want to contribute to PACs, corporations when they break the law.

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    Hummm, is beesource adopting a new view of big corporations? What am I seeing here? Money is power my friends and laws are written and enforced for those unfortunate souls that don't have the money. Read any history book for any region.
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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    The guilty parties have been well known within the industry for quite a period of time, decades.As to their growth and volume that only proves that they enjoyed some good support from non Chinese producers and their willingness to share this cheap honey with other packers.Seems even the Good packers liked to share the contaminated honey, eg Sue bee would return loads to brokers that failed their tests rather than reporting them to FDA .That sorta says something about the honey packing business in the USA....cheap funny honey always found and will find a home.The packing industry only became effective in self regulating when the feds really got involved and the volume became such a threat to clean producers and packers

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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Quote Originally Posted by irwin harlton View Post
    Excellent post apis maximus

    If these were individuals and not corporations ,they would be thrown in jail ..the fines are a slap on the wrist and the companies get to play the same game down the road ...this funny honey ain't going away forever or quickly.....


    More and better info here http://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/pr/c...pr0220_02.html
    X2 looks like a sound business practice to pay 3M to save 180M with NO PROSECUTION
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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Errr...Corporations are individuals...oh yeah...only when they want to be. Individuals when they want to contribute to PACs, corporations when they break the law.
    I can't remember who I'm quoting but somebody said "I'll believe that corporations are individuals when Texas executes one of them"
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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    > "I'll believe that corporations are individuals when Texas executes one of them"

    The quote is attributed to Robert Reich. (click his name to see his comments and background)

    Here's more on that issue from a Forbes columnist who has a slightly different view:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...-robert-reich/
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    Default Re: Honey "Dumping" Prosecutions

    Looks like a thread headed straight for Tailgater.
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