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  1. #1
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    Default Multiple queen swarms?

    How often is this encountered? I got a swarm off a pine tree today using a pool skimmer stick with a bucket taped to it. I dumped them through a QE, found a queen, caged her and figured I could sit back and watch the swarm settle in. I sat back and watched them ignore the caged queen, and wad up elsewhere, so I shook them into another box, found another queen...this one they stayed with. I found three queens, and there may have been four the way they behaved...
    My wife says I have ADD, but, hey look- a chicken!

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    Sorry, I have no idea but your signature line cracked me up!!

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    I don't know how often it happens, but it has happened to me 2 or 3 times in the past. One actually flew into my yard into some empty boxes I had stacked, and separated by night fall into two separate box stacks. One had the old mated queen with the remains of a paint spot, the other was a virgin and took a couple weeks to start laying.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    It happens more often than we realize. Most swarms are just dumped into a box or hive body without a QE.
    This year I will use a QE on every swarm.

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    How does one dump a swarm through a Qe? New here, second spring after my first winter

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    Attach a Qe to the bottom of a deep box, and dump and shake a swarm through it into it's new home box. This traps the queens above the Qe in the deep box.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    If you listen to Don the FatBeeman podcast on http://somdbeekeeper.com/, Don states that it is a regular occurance to find more than one queen in a swarm. If I rememebr correctly, he states the queens do not kill other queens until after they have been mated.

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    They have been documented since at least Huber's time:

    http://www.bushfarms.com/huber.htm#o...dsprimaryswarm

    "We watched this queen a long time, but not aware that she would lead out a colony, we left the hive for a few hours. Returning at mid-day, we were greatly surprised to find it almost totally deserted. During our absence, it had thrown a prodigious swarm, which still clustered on the branch of a neighboring tree. We also saw with astonishment the third cell open, and its top connected to it as by a hinge. In all probability, the captive queen, profiting by the confusion that preceded the swarming, escaped. Thus, there was no doubt of both queens being in the swarm. We found it so and removed them, that the bees might return to the hive, which they did very soon."--François Huber, 6 September 1791, New Observations on the Natural History Of Bees Volume I
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    I have read about a multi-queen swarm being placed in large box, after a few days the box was opened to find several nests being constructed separately.
    "Nature does nothing uselessly." Aristotle

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    Fairly common when there are a lot of hives in the area. Working at H&r last year there was a swarm in the queen yard , The guys went after it and found over 30 queens. some how one can trigger several queens at a time all them phermones... may be like women in the house syncing up theirs!

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    Default Re: Multiple queen swarms?

    Lucky you
    Now you get to makes splits and queen them
    Hope they mate

    See you next Thurs.? .

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