Whenever any person, even someone like Russell - whom, by the way I in no wise hold out as a man of good character...he himself acknowledged himself a liar… and that he accepted money for product not delivered being indisputable -- when *any* man is the subject of slurring attacks by way of insinuation concerning theft, etc. until there is some evidence to that *Additional* crime, to insinuate, or accuse him of it *is* dishonorable.
It is not Robert Russell being defended here.
It is honor, and honorable behavior, even toward someone who has behaved dishonestly and dishonorably.
In like manner Sippy, I’ve not accused you of stealing anything, but rather gave example of how easily one can believe something that may not be true.
There are innocent men –good men – whose business is harmed if moonbeam bees, for example, don’t have the traits claimed.
I have observed bees I bought (which are not regular MB, but am told were crossed w/ Alaskan bees) to fly in the dark, to fly when cold prevents my other bees, and to be aggressive toward mites.
While that doesn’t prove anything about MB, it does present evidence.
No matter whom I buy bees from, the only proof of the sellers claim that matters much is the bees performance in my yard.
I expect that before Joe C, Kale, or Jason sell any queens out of the bees they’ve got from Russell, they’ll prove them in their own yards.
(I know Kale isn't carrying them anymore at all b/c of association w/ Russell.)
I think it’s foolish to attack a product because the breeder’s character is flawed.
I expect to get a couple of Moonbeams (not crosses) this spring and will determine if they are as represented or not based not on imagination, or fear born of the breeder’s poor business practice, but based on their performance.
And I’ll refrain from comments born of suspicion (though granted, the suspicion is reasonable) and imagination until there is actual evidence that the lines are tainted or exaggerated.
To do otherwise isn’t just casting deserved doubt on Russell, but liable to damage the honest businessmen breeding from JN’s stock…which no one can say didn’t exist, only perhaps that he didn’t see them.
I encourage the lot of us to be circumspect and cautious not to be cheated by Russell, and not to damage these other (honest) men’s interests with speculation, but instead to wait for evidence [that the bees don't have the traits claimed] should there be any.
And if those lines of bees are fraudulent, there certainly will be.
The bees don’t lie.