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  1. #1
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    Default Drawing out PF frames

    I put 5 frames each of Pf foundation in three hives on Sunday. I gave each hive a gallon of 1:2 syrup, because I mixed it wrong. It was suppose to be 1:1, but I forgot half of the sugar. Then I realized that I forgot to put wax on the foundation, So Monday night I wax some to swap them out with. I went into the hives today to swap the frames out, it was sunny and 62 degrees. Each hive had started drawing out on the surface of at least 70 percent of all 5 frames.
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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Quote Originally Posted by sfisher View Post
    Then I realized that I forgot to put wax on the foundation, .
    You forgot to put extra wax on the pf's or did you special order them with no wax to begin with?

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Crazy bees. Didn't they know the "rules"? Waxed frames and 1:1 syrup. LOL

    I do wax my PF's to give the bees more to work with. Seems they draw it out so much faster and better if I wax it.

    -js

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    I squirt a little sugar water on new frames and they draw out ok.
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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    I don't do anything to my PF frames, use them right out of the box.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    oblib I bought them already waxed but I have read many threads were people say that the bees accept them better if you add more wax. Looks like my bees dont care, at least right now they dont.
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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    I buy them unwaxed because they are cheaper and put on my own known to be chemically free wax fresh. I would not recommend it but I have put on unwaxed ones while the bees were being heavily fed and the bees drew them out just fine.

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Vance I looked into the unwaxed although they were cheaper, shipping was not free on them. And the unwaxed ended up being more expensive after shipping was added.

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Vance G View Post
    I buy them unwaxed because they are cheaper and put on my own known to be chemically free wax fresh. I would not recommend it but I have put on unwaxed ones while the bees were being heavily fed and the bees drew them out just fine.
    Are Mann Lake's PF frames available unwaxed? I have never seen them advertised as such.

    My bees draw them out just fine with no extra wax.

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Quote Originally Posted by rkereid View Post
    Are Mann Lake's PF frames available unwaxed? I have never seen them advertised as such.
    From the same catalog page as the waxed frames:
    Available unwaxed, call 800-880-7694 for details.
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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    I've bought quite a few of these over the last several years and the wax is pretty thin on them. That's why I generally re-wax mine. -js

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    [QUOTE=sfisher;897711]Vance I looked into the unwaxed although they were cheaper, shipping was not free on them. And the unwaxed ended up being more expensive after shipping was added.[/QUOTE ]
    I bought several hundred of them and they shipped free at the time. The employees have some dickering room I believe. I also see shipping distance to your location is a lot further than to mine. Who knows.

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    From the same catalog page as the waxed frames:
    Wasn't aware of that. Is there a discount for unwaxed if you buy a quantity that qualifies for free shipping?

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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Vance G View Post
    The employees have some dickering room I believe.
    That's neat. They are an employee owned business.
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    Default Re: Drawing ot PF frames

    The only time I have had problems with the bees drawing out the PF frames is when I put one or two into a hive with already drawn comb.
    Dan Hayden 4 Years. 9 hives. Tx Free. USDA Zone 5b.

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