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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    Interesting idea. Thanks. Though I don't understand removing all but 2 cells. What would be the difference if there was 2 or 10?
    2 cells incase one doesn't work. Any more and you increase the chances of after swarms with a virgin queen.

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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    I was thinking about this last night. I've got 4 strong hives. Right before the flow I should split these and take the queen and let them raise their own and it will increase honey production? Seems like a very simple plan if it will work well.
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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    You can adjust it to fit your needs. For max honey production remove just the queen 8 days before the flow (all the open brood will be capped in time for the flow).

    For making a whole bunch of splits and no honey crop, remove the queen and a few frames of brood to a nuc, notch 5 day old larva on several frames in the original hive, 4-15 day window to make splits before virgin hatch, making sure each has only 2 capped queen cells. All splits will need to be checked to verify the virgin queens mated/returned and are laying. Recombine any splits that fail to make a queen with the queen right splits. If you've split hives before you'll know it about 80% success rate during a flow when there are drones flying.

    I am going for both honey production and one split and IMO the best choice. I will take the queen and 3 frames of brood, a few shakes of bees (making a strong nuc). let the hive raise a queen and fill honey supers. If any of the hives fail to make a queen I will add the nuc back. The ones that are successful will give me an extra nuc to replace winter losses or expand

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beessplits.htm#cutdown
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    http://www.mdasplitter.com/docs/OTS.pdf

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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    Excellent info. I wasn’t sure if making one split taking the 3 frames of brood and the laying queen would affect honey production with those 3 frames of bees gone.

    Thanks for your help!
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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    Man I've missed this forum. Too bad I didn't jump back on sooner I would have asked to come out to help. Granted I really wanted to video tape your trying this at night. ;-)
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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    Quote Originally Posted by daknoodle View Post
    Man I've missed this forum. Too bad I didn't jump back on sooner I would have asked to come out to help. Granted I really wanted to video tape your trying this at night. ;-)


    You still have those splits we made a couple years ago?

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    Default Re: Advice on killing a hive

    I enquired about killing a hive on this forum several years ago. It was advised to wait a couple of weeks to see if the bees calmed a little which they did & I requeened. The advice was to use copious amounts of alcohol soaked rags in a sealed up hive. Although the alcohol is certainly flammable the equipment & honey is not contaminated after the termination. Anyone that keeps bees would only terminate a hive as a last resort but safety of family, pets etc. trumps the bees in my opinion. I am going to get some nitrogen fertilizer & try that suggestion.

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