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  1. #1
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    Default Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    Im confused.

    I see people installing crimped wire foundation and using pins.

    I see people installing foundation without wires and then embedding wires horizontally.

    Is it possible to embed crosswires with crimped wire foundation or is this not done or necessary?

    Really confused here. How is crimped wire foundation meant to be installed? I used it but it also came with pins for the edges, however, one site im ordering from doesnt look like they offer pins, so is crimped wire foundation not supposed to have pins either?

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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    In my opinion the crimp wired is best when used with embedded crosswires. It is pretty bulletproof if done correctly and well drawn. I have not used it with pins and would like comments on how good they work.

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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    I have three deeps and two mediums with crimped wire foundation and pins. The rest are going to be mediums and I may be embedding those....so, maybe I can let you know. I live in Texas and its hot.

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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    brazosdog02,

    I don't use wire at all, used to but now I use fishing line. Crosswire anyway you want. This is good if you need to cut cells, wire doesn't get in the way. Just my $.02. FatBeeMan has a video showing how to do it. Go to his site, dixiebeesupply dot com, follow to his youtube channell. Easy to find.
    Beeman
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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    Read that someone had trouble with bees chewing through the foundation following the 'X' of fishing line. Ever had that problem? What pound test line? Will an 'X' on a medium super with wired foundation make it OK to put in an extractor?

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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    Have not had that problem. Any # test will work but I would use the heaveist that would fit through holes, I use 20#. As far as extracting goes all I have used up until this year has been wired foundation w/side or bottom pins. Never had a blowout yet. This year I am going to be converting to all foundationless frames with no wire anywhere. I want to get as much junk out of my hives as possible. I know you can't get it all, just doing the best I can.
    Beeman
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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    Hmmm....so the prewired vertical wax foundation and then just pins in the sides worked for you and extraction with no problems?

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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    I have personally never horizontally wired my crimped wire foundation. I only use pins if the foundation doesn't stay in the middle of the frame when hung vertically. I have crimped wire in both medium honey supers and deep brood frames.

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    Default Re: Crosswiring crimped wire foundation?

    Quote Originally Posted by brazosdog02 View Post
    Hmmm....so the prewired vertical wax foundation and then just pins in the sides worked for you and extraction with no problems?

    Yeap. Been doing it that way for 5 seasons, no problems. Of course I watch my extractor speed and don't start out too fast.
    Beeman
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