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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Ethics question r/e nuc sales

    I sell 20-30 nucs a year. I am up front and as detailed as I can in regards to what the buy is getting. For instance, this year this is what my Craigslist ad says.
    "For sale this spring---5 frame nucs of honey bees
    Each nuc will come with 5 filled out frames of bees, brood, a new 2013 UNMARKED queen and includes you keeping the nuc box.

    **Standard 5.4 cell size 5 frame nuc: $120-- mother queen will be from VSH queen and new queen will be open mated.
    **4.9 small cell size 5 frame nuc: $140 mother queen will be from Italian queen and new queen will be open mated.
    **I may have a few 5.4 cell size 9 frame medium nucs available with VSH offspring queens. $115 and you will need to bring your own bottom board and top.

    Nucs available for pick up May 1st, 2013 but could be earlier if we have good spring weather."


    I won't sell a nuc until the frames are filled out and the new queen is laying well for weeks. Seems a purchased queen that's just started laying doesn't have a laying track record to stand on yet. If you're going to sell a nuc with a purchased queen, it seems that 1. the people need to be told that and 2. The queen needs to have layed and hatched through a cycle or two to show she's legit. At least that's what I think the etical/moral thing to do is. You purchased the queens under the premise that it was a healthy laying queen and not a brand new just mated queen. The seller wouldn't sell you a newly mated queen. They sold you a good layer. You should see that she is doing just the same before selling the nuc.
    Just my 2 cents...

  2. #22
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    Apr 2011
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    Weeki Wachee, Florida,USA
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    Default Re: Ethics question r/e nuc sales

    What about an advertisement like this?
    Three frames of brood two frames of food and a laying queen in a wood box.
    $ 100.00
    Please call and order 2 weeks before pick up so I can pull the frames place in a box and introduce the queen.

    Does that make me a bad person?
    What if I tell you what "brands" of stock I have that I grafted from and hope my queens mated with?
    If people call tell them what you have. If you bought the mated queens for someone tell them.
    If you mated them from queen cells grafted from a certain line and open mated in your yard tell them. If you dumped a couple pounds of bees in a box and hope there is a queen share.

    It's only bad if you misrepresent or lie.

  3. #23
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    Feb 2012
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    West Bath, Maine, United States
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    Default Re: Ethics question r/e nuc sales

    Say what you know ,not what you guess. People tend to take a guess as a promise. Why not wait another week or so , prove your queen and raise your price?

  4. #24
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    Default Re: Ethics question r/e nuc sales

    ha ha ha , thumbs up to the raise your price comment !
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
    www.stepplerfarms.com

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Ethics question r/e nuc sales

    MBeck...

    If they buy from that ad, then any negative that comes from it is their own fault. You told them and still bought it...while I, personally, wouldn't do what the ad says, I guess it's "ok".

    The lines of what is right and what is wrong are thin and dependent upon a person's ability to balance...

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