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  1. #1
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    Default Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    For those of us who pollinate almonds the best time of the year is about here. If you have been doing this a while you have probably dealt with a grower or two who think the price of bees is way to high.

    If ANYONE tries to pull that trick on you this year I recommend you go to the bank with them and wipe away their crocodile tears with their golden Kleenex.

    With the surge in prices the last few months.....even the California varieties hoovering just short of 3 bucks and the nons substantially more any decent grower can easliy afford $200 today compared to 150 last year. If they pull the crybaby trick tell them you will take a pollination price increase that is only 50% of what they are getting compared to the price of nuts a year ago.

    More stories of bees crashing at the same time more trees are going in the ground. Met another "row crop guy" last night at the basketball game who just put in 70 acres this week. Total of 200 new acres in the ground in the last 3 weeks within 3 miles of our ranch. People don't put that kind of money into the dirt when the payback outlook is $0.

    If there ever was a time for this industry to ride coat tails of a boom this is it. Tell them to put the Handkerchief back in their pocket and drag out another 20-40 bucks next year.
    Last edited by Honey-4-All; 02-09-2013 at 11:07 AM.

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    I hear yeah Phil, but what I fear the most is the beekeeper, they, in the past, have done a great job of keeping the price down.
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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    The neighbor down the road a bit told me he can leave the dinks to die in Texas or ship them to almonds & get $200 for 4 frames of bees & leave the to die in California.
    Growers are a screaming that there are no bees to " bee " had for there groves.
    Some brokers are asking for payment up front on the slow payers due to the shortage before the boxes hit the ground.
    Can't say I blame them.

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    Almond milk driving the boom?
    Time to be a gypsy again, 2014 will be my prep year, my bees want a better area with actual rainfall.

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsi View Post
    Almond milk driving the boom?

    Is that a serious question? If you can name three people who you know who drink that stuff I can easily call you a hippy or a liberal.

    From what I understand a big share of the credit can go to the ALMOND BOARD who have done a killer job of penetrating the pocket books of the newly rich ( and not so rich) in China, India, And recently to some extent the folks in Russia....

    Health wise Almonds are a fabulous product. Now that the rest of the world is rich cause we gave them all our money they can buy our stuff. Now thats NUTS!

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    Stupid question. I'm allergic to cow's milk. So is one of my daughters and 2 of my grandchildren. Never mind, leaving.
    Time to be a gypsy again, 2014 will be my prep year, my bees want a better area with actual rainfall.

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    Quote Originally Posted by Honey-4-All View Post
    Is that a serious question? If you can name three people who you know who drink that stuff I can easily call you a hippy or a liberal.
    There is no reason to issue insults over consumption of almond milk. Here are some US 2011 market numbers:
    Last year, 11% of adults were consumers of soy milk, according to the organization, while 9% consumed almond milk. Rice milk came third in popularity. Almond milk sales increased 79% last year. Meanwhile soy milk sales are declining, with the total soy food and beverage market shrinking about 15% from 2008 to 2010, according to the report.

    Full article:
    http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Mar...lk-alternative
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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsi View Post
    Almond milk driving the boom?
    Didn't know this product existed till couple weeks ago when I saw it on the supermarket shelf, so took some home to try.

    All I can say, freaking horrible. This product will never sell as big as soy milk, most people will try it just once.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Didn't know this product existed till couple weeks ago when I saw it on the supermarket shelf, so took some home to try.

    All I can say, freaking horrible. This product will never sell as big as soy milk, most people will try it just once.
    YMMV. I Hate soy milk, and love (plain, unsweetened) almond milk. Did you have the refrigerated or shelf stable? IMO the latter is not nearly as good. Also, there's been a lot of anti-soy info going around which might influence consumption.

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    Default Re: Crocodile tears not allowed by almond growers in 2013.

    last year the first load we sent out graded 12 frames with 4 20 framers. three graded 5. we had a contract for 8 fr ave 6 fr min. we didnt get paid for the three 5 framers even though we were 50% over thd ave. guess where those bees are today...thats right in oange groves in FL. second load i thought was better than first load. went thru some cold weather and i shoukd have checked the forecast. with lots of brood some colonies liast some cluster due to trying to cover it. with nets on the truck and rain at 45 deg when my driver arrived they wete griping the bees were no good. must have gad a exray machine to know in those conditions. tgat area gad a dry bloom with little nectar and pollen. I flew out Feb 20 got bees fed and orchard was 95 percent bloom. Four weeks later we got released. there wasn any viable bloom for the ladt 10 days just a few pedals bees went downhill. i figure i lost 100k in lost honey due to delay in releasing as we missed two weeks of orange and bees went downhill
    the grower needs to realize if he wants bees he needs to wirkvwith the beekeeper! now guess where those where those bees are today... thats right in orange groves in Florida. Fir seven years I fought the morans at the bordrr and could never get the bees released...I didnt want them untul the bloom was over but didnt want them sitting there two weeks with one pedal a tree and nothing to work! Hsd my best beez ever this year...would have averaged at least 16 frames next week...weakest ones are 6 and 7. Had a great buildup since they started brooding up first week in Dec. Many have 8 plus frames of solid brood been pulling splits all week! So almond griwers eat your heart out! anyone want some good bees? price is 250 and you pay freight unload and reload cash on delivery otherwise im staying on east coast.

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