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    carrots !
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    i'm still crackin' up over mark's rubber boots. that's classic, good one mark.

    i wonder how often processed sugar gets into honey via hummingbird feeders or other beeyards.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Usually if a guy is feeding his hives, there is little to no nectar to be had. So even if a neighbouring bee yard was robbing a neighbouring yards pail spills, that syrup will be going into the nest, not into the supers
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerezha View Post
    It is interested observation. Anybody else could comment on crystallized honey in the comb?
    I still have about 5 comb sections of honey that I took off my hives about 13 years ago. It's been in the freezer all this time. They are just now starting to get some crystallization. What I can say is, honey that's been kept in the comb will retain the best flavor. The comb honey years old will still taste fresher than any of my extracted honey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerezha View Post
    It is interested observation. Anybody else could comment on crystallized honey in the comb? In my hand with limited experience, I do observe that honey are not crystallized in the comb, but the same honey extracted by crush-and-strain method, in fact, do crystallize.
    Well, of course it does. Why would you expect otherwise. What w/ all of the particulate material in the honey from the crushing and straining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    let talk about garden fresh carrots now . . .
    By special request, how about carrot honey ....


    Carrot honey produced by a local farmer who grows carrots for their seeds, not their roots. He sells the seeds, and before the flower matures, bees gather the pollen from the carrot flowers and make this unique honey.

    Linked from this blog:
    http://pastryprose.blogspot.com/2012...et-winter.html

    No information available as to how quickly it crystallizes.
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    Blah ha ha ha ha ha ah aha ha ha

    Cheers !
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    whats the chances that's actually carrot honey,.?
    got to have acres of that to amount to anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    By special request, how about carrot honey ....


    Carrot honey produced by a local farmer who grows carrots for their seeds, not their roots. He sells the seeds, and before the flower matures, bees gather the pollen from the carrot flowers and make this unique honey.

    Linked from this blog:
    http://pastryprose.blogspot.com/2012...et-winter.html

    No information available as to how quickly it crystallizes.
    Problem is, bees don't make honey from pollen. So, there may be carrot pollen in this honey, but that isn't the nectar source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    whats the chances that's actually carrot honey,.?
    got to have acres of that to amount to anything.
    Not much of a chance, imo.
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    but it says raw carrot honey on the label, and probably has carrot pollen in the honey, sooooo . . . . must be the real
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    I'm sure u believe everything you read, don't u?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Well, of course it does. Why would you expect otherwise. What w/ all of the particulate material in the honey from the crushing and straining.
    What is added to the honey during crushing and straining? Wax, I guess. So, if so, wax stimulates crystallization, which is opposed to my "theory". My "theory" was that wax may function as a "emulsifier" (not exactly) to keep honey from crystallization. Based on replies by experienced people, it looks like, my wax theory did not work
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Boris, you should maybe go into comedy. Honey is defined by legal definitions, not anyone's opinion. We can all discuss viewpoints, but it is a court of law that has the only say. You have failed to provide ANY statutes and ANY lab results that show that ANY honey found by you was not honey. You have not even provided any court cases that have found "funny honey" for sale.

    I really feel sorry for you.

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    I got to get me some of that carrot honey !
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerezha View Post
    Based on replies by experienced people, it looks like, my wax theory did not work
    cheers Sergey
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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    So, there may be carrot pollen in this honey, but that isn't the nectar source.
    Hmm, Carrot blossoms offer nectar to pollinators, according to Dr. Keith S. Delaplane. Here's a page from his book supporting that:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=ZHG...nation&f=false

    Seems to be somewhat of a stretch to say that carrot honey cannot be made from carrot blossoms.

    And if you don't know who Dr. Delaplane, of University of Georgia is, here's his background.
    http://www.ent.uga.edu/bees/personnel/delaplane.html

    And here's someone from last spring looking for 400 hives to pollinate carrots:
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ed-pollination
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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    This question is for everybody except Boris Romanov. What the heck was that video about and what does it have to do w/ this Thread?
    I couldnt help it, I watched the Youtube Vid,

    Mark, I got it figured, Boris is completely NUTS
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    probably some nectar there Graham, but do you see enough to make surplus?

    ah, who cares, Love the initiative !
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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    So, there may be carrot pollen in this honey, but that isn't the nectar source.
    Why do you think carrot flowers cannot be a nectar source?

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