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    Default Securing Foundation to Frame

    Im looking for a Heating Tool that melts wire into foundation. Totally new to bee keeping, but I have and
    Ole friend that is teaching me. And he prefers me to use a melting tool as he does to secure the wire to
    the wax foundation. Im using wedge top bar and grooved bottom bar med. frames.
    Thanks
    Ronmat

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    Mike Forbes
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    A weak 12 volt car battery works good. Mine is work into my wiring jig. Light swtich turn it on alligator clamp in the right places
    David

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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    A charger might limit the amperage and some can be set for 6 volts.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    This is the greatest site I have seen, thanks for all the helpful information
    One more question, he also uses a small brass bushing to go into the
    Side bar which keeps the wire from cutting into the side
    Frame, where can I get this brass bushing.
    Again thanks for all the help folks
    Ronmat

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    Welcome to Beesource!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronmat View Post
    ... where can I get this brass bushing.
    Those eyelets are available at most bee supply companies. Here's the one at Brushy Mountain:
    http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com...oductinfo/698/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronmat View Post
    Frame, where can I get this brass bushing.
    Another technique is to staple next to the hole on the outside so the wire cannot cut into the wood when it is strung to the next hole.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    Those eyelets are available at most bee supply companies.
    Eyelets are used on footwear, too. Shoelaces are threaded through eyelets. What is the name of the little hard thing on the end of a shoelace that is threaded through an eyelet?

    Trivial Pursuit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Another technique is to staple next to the hole on the outside so the wire cannot cut into the wood when it is strung to the next hole.
    Who does that?

    You, or they must be capable of precision stapling...

    I use eyelets and a stapler. I run the wire through the endbars and then twist the end of the wire around the "standing part" (the spool side). I then give the frame a spin while holding the wires to tighten them. I snip off the wire, bend the twisted wire against the end bar (vertically) and then shoot two staples across the wire to secure it. I then use a wire crimper to make the wire sing...

    I think it's pretty fast.
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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Eyelets are used on footwear, too. Shoelaces are threaded through eyelets. What is the name of the little hard thing on the end of a shoelace that is threaded through an eyelet?

    Trivial Pursuit
    I belive they are called aglets..... Grandpa & Great Grandpa had shoe stores

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    Yep, aglet is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermonter View Post
    I belive they are called aglets.....
    Not sure what the prize is, but we have a winner!

    And here is a site about repairing/replacing aglets ...
    http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/agletrepair.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Yep, aglet is correct.
    Ramona will tell you that I have chronic AAFS (aggravated aglet failure syndrome).

    deknow
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    Who does that?

    You, or they must be capable of precision stapling...
    I don't wire my frames but can it be that challenging to put a staple next to a hole? Some might even put two staples in. Supposing you are a putts and can't get the staple next to the hole. The wire is only going to cut into the wood until it hits the staple anyway. It is not like you are caning a chair.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    I have used staples.
    I have used eyelets.
    Eyelets are faster & easier for me.
    As long as I am only buying hundreds, the price difference is insubstantial.

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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    I don't wire my frames but can it be that challenging to put a staple next to a hole? Some might even put two staples in. Supposing you are a putts and can't get the staple next to the hole. The wire is only going to cut into the wood until it hits the staple anyway. It is not like you are caning a chair.
    Is this another Dream Sequence?

    Who uses the technique you're suggesting?

    Did you mean "putz"?
    BeeCurious
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    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    I dont use the eyelets but i also dont pull the wire that tight to cut into the frame that bad.

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    Default Re: Securing Foundation to Frame

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Two members use staples according to that thread. If the cost of eyelets is the motivation for using staples I could PayPal a dollar to help out...
    BeeCurious
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